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mikbro 10-31-2008 12:55 PM

Switch / Receptacle
 
Hi, I am replacing a Single-Pole Switch / Receptacle. The new switch has 5 screws:
Side 1: green, silver
Side 2: brass, black, black
The outlet box has 3 wires, two beige and one black. I connected black to green and beige to brass and black but only light switch works. Beige to black and black has power but no switch. Thanks in advance.
Mike

Bubbagump 10-31-2008 01:03 PM

Huh? So this is a two gang box with a switch and a receptacle? Any chance this is a knob and tube setup? And you ONLY have 3 wires into the box? What does the switch control? Is the switch supposed to switch the receptacle?

Also, it sounds like you have a 4 way switch, not a single pole. Therefore likely one wire is neutral, one is common, one is hot. Assuming this, you would pig tail the receptacle to the hot/neutral and wire the switch to the proper terminals likely hot, neutral, and common. However, with out more info, I am guessing based on your description.

mikbro 10-31-2008 01:30 PM

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Hi thanks for quick reply.
Switch turns on light.
It's a Deco Switch And Recept #7730W-SP similar to this one.

Bubbagump 10-31-2008 01:33 PM

Ok, this makes way more sense.The black (hot) wire from the power connects to one of the dark screws that are tabbed together. The white (neutral) wire from the power is pigtailed together with the white (neutral) wire from the light and connects to the light colored screw. The black (hot) wire from the light connects to the separate dark screw.

HouseHelper 10-31-2008 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mikbro (Post 179133)
Hi, I am replacing a Single-Pole Switch / Receptacle. The new switch has 5 screws:
Side 1: green, silver
Side 2: brass, black, black
The outlet box has 3 wires, two beige and one black. I connected black to green and beige to brass and black but only light switch works. Beige to black and black has power but no switch. Thanks in advance.
Mike

Typical convention would be:
Green or bare wire to green screw
neutral (white) wire to silver screw
constant hot (black) wire to black screw
switched hot (black or red) wire to brass screw

But since your wire colors don't exactly match, you will have to determine which is hot, neutral, and switched hot.
How was the previous switch wired?

joed 10-31-2008 01:57 PM

You must use aGFCI device or have a GFCI breaker. This box appears to not have any grounds.

Bubbagump 10-31-2008 02:03 PM

Not necessarily... is the box metal or have BX coming in? You may simply be able to use a ground clip assuming there is a good path to ground somewhere.

mikbro 10-31-2008 02:11 PM

Previous switch was a Leviton NOM057.
Side 1: dark, silver
Side 2: brass, dark, dark
Two beige went onto the side 1 dark and side 2 dark and neutral on the silver. I tried that connection but only power works. No metal box.

220/221 10-31-2008 02:11 PM

You need to identify your hot and neutral wires. You need a tester of some sort. If you try and guess you will at some point cause a dead short and trip the breaker/blow the fuse.

Beige is not really a color we use.

The hot wire will go on the right hand side. It will feed the recep and the switch via the jumper between the two screws.

The neutral wire will go on the lower left side (silver screw). It goes to the left slot on the recep.

The switch leg will go on the left side of the switch. The recep pictured looks like a 3way sw because it appears to have two terminals on the left side. A sp sw would only have one.

Bubbagump 10-31-2008 02:13 PM

I have a feeling the "beige" is is just an old white neutral wire. But yeah, you must get a voltage detector and find the hot. You don't want to be guessing when it comes to electricity.

220/221 10-31-2008 02:28 PM

That's what I was thinking but he has two of them.

The other is may be the switch leg or????

If he just guesses, there's gonna be sparks.:jester:

mikbro 10-31-2008 05:15 PM

Got connections to work:

Green or bare wire to green screw (no wire)
neutral (white) wire to silver screw (black)
constant hot (black) wire to black screw (beige)
switched hot (black or red) wire to brass screw (beige)

Thanks for all help.


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