Surge Protection In Travel Trailer??? - Electrical - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-18-2009, 02:32 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 68
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Surge Protection in Travel Trailer???


.

A few years ago, I bought Sycom surge protector (syc-120/240 tc) for my home's 200 Amp main panel. As per its instructions, I connected its white wire with the other white wires, connected #1 black wire into a 30A breaker and connected its #2 black wire to a different 30A breaker. Each breaker is on a different panel phase. Thus, covering both phases of my home's 200A electrical panel. The Sycom unit has been working great. For product picture, surf: http://74.53.140.226/~sycomsur/produ...40TC-4-20.html


For my Travel Trailer (that uses max 30A 110V power), I was hoping to install the same Sycom Surge protection unit. Plan to install its white wire with the other white wires and connect #1 black wire to a 30A breaker. Thus, covering its single phase service. Here's my question... For its #2 black wire, do I connect it to a 30A breaker (as well) or simply leave this #2 black wire disconnected? Leave disconnected because the main panel in my TT is a single phase service?

thanks.

.

Advertisement

Spike99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 02:47 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: SoCal
Posts: 1,794
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Surge Protection in Travel Trailer???


As you know, your 30amp RV circuit is 120 volt only. Unless there is something about the unit that it has to be used for 240v service across both legs as in a house panel, I would think that leaving the one leg disconnected would be ok.

I would suggest to check with the manufacturer of the unit just to be sure.

Advertisement

vsheetz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2009, 03:01 PM   #3
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 68
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Surge Protection in Travel Trailer???


Quote:
Originally Posted by vsheetz View Post
As you know, your 30amp RV circuit is 120 volt only. Unless there is something about the unit that it has to be used for 240v service across both legs as in a house panel, I would think that leaving the one leg disconnected would be ok. I would suggest to check with the manufacturer of the unit just to be sure.
Thanks. I will only connect 1 x Black wire. Had a "gut feel" that connecting both black wires to the same phase created no additional benefit. Will also check with Sycom company as well. thanks.

.
Spike99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2009, 10:07 AM   #4
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 68
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Surge Protection in Travel Trailer???


Update:

As per Sycom prime (see below), I should use a different Surge Product on my Travel Trailer's 30A - 110/120V system instead. For this 110/120V distribution panel (which is different then a home's 200A / 220V main panel box), I should be using SYC-120HW. re: http://www.sourceresearch.com/Sycom/...=syc_120hw.pdf

Robert Saunders
Technical Sales and Service Rep
Toll Free- (800)-622-9904 (ext. 35)
Phone-(613)-963-0085
Fax-(613)-963-0097

Note: My local RV Deailer wanted "on sale" $350 + taxes for their Travel Trailer / RV Trailer Surge protection unit. As they say, it does "save" to shop around. LOL!!!!!

.
Spike99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2009, 08:54 PM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NW of D.C.
Posts: 5,990
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Surge Protection in Travel Trailer???


Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike99 View Post
Update:

As per Sycom prime (see below), I should use a different Surge Product on my Travel Trailer's 30A - 110/120V system instead. For this 110/120V distribution panel (which is different then a home's 200A / 220V main panel box), I should be using SYC-120HW. re: http://www.sourceresearch.com/Sycom/...=syc_120hw.pdf

Robert Saunders
Technical Sales and Service Rep
Toll Free- (800)-622-9904 (ext. 35)
Phone-(613)-963-0085
Fax-(613)-963-0097

Note: My local RV Deailer wanted "on sale" $350 + taxes for their Travel Trailer / RV Trailer Surge protection unit. As they say, it does "save" to shop around. LOL!!!!!

.
Some places supply 132v so the clamping voltage at 130vrms seems low to me, and they don't say how many joules.
If you're in the FL or the Ozarks you may need extra protection.

Last edited by Yoyizit; 07-21-2009 at 08:56 PM.
Yoyizit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2009, 09:51 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Brooklyn, New York (NYC)
Posts: 1,124
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Surge Protection in Travel Trailer???


Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike99 View Post
Thanks. I will only connect 1 x Black wire. Had a "gut feel" that connecting both black wires to the same phase created no additional benefit. Will also check with Sycom company as well. thanks.

.
I second the (e)motion of poster #2 Vsheetz. Contact the manufacturer of the product. Sometimes, connecting an appliance (anything, for that matter) to a different voltage than it is designed for, can create a hazardous condition. Especially in an RV. Due to the Aluminum wiring that it contains. Sometimes, a product is designed to run on 240v. as are most services of RVs. (No matter what) Don't Drink and Drive!!!
spark plug is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2009, 02:23 PM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 68
Rewards Points: 75
Default

Surge Protection in Travel Trailer???


New question....


For my Trailer's Main Panel, is the below Sycom or Intermatic product better? re:

Intermatic AG2401C-IND (110/120V device)
http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/fi...a%20sheet.ashx

Sycom SYC-120HW (110/120V device)
http://www.logicsolution.com/SYC-120HW.pdf

Note: Was told quality in each product is determined by their VOM, Clamping, max Amp and Joules ratings. Unfortuneatly, I don't understand these specific values (and their good compared to better numbers).

For a Travel Trailer's main panel for short term 15A - 110/120V and future upgrade to 30A - 110/120V, which of these products would you pick?

Many thanks.

.
Spike99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-07-2009, 10:37 PM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: NW of D.C.
Posts: 5,990
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Surge Protection in Travel Trailer???


Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike99 View Post
New question....


For my Trailer's Main Panel, is the below Sycom or Intermatic product better? re:

Intermatic AG2401C-IND (110/120V device)
http://www.intermatic.com/~/media/fi...a%20sheet.ashx

Sycom SYC-120HW (110/120V device)
http://www.logicsolution.com/SYC-120HW.pdf

Note: Was told quality in each product is determined by their VOM, Clamping, max Amp and Joules ratings. Unfortuneatly, I don't understand these specific values (and their good compared to better numbers).

For a Travel Trailer's main panel for short term 15A - 110/120V and future upgrade to 30A - 110/120V, which of these products would you pick?

Many thanks.

.
The first one can handle 40 kA and uses the standard lightning current waveform, the second handles 19.5 kA and it clamps at a pretty low voltage.

Based on current alone, if the second one costs more than half the first, get the first one.

Advertisement

Yoyizit is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Trailer service hd82 Electrical 10 04-23-2009 01:26 PM
Surge Protection Primer fw2007 Electrical 3 04-09-2009 11:47 AM
Whole House Surge Protection? KE2KB Electrical 15 02-04-2009 10:39 PM
Calling All Towing/RV Experts Woofies General DIY Discussions 5 05-15-2008 07:47 PM
grounding outlets boddah Electrical 9 01-20-2008 06:36 PM




Top of Page | View New Posts