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08-09-2010, 04:51 PM
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Surface Mounted Receptacles - Big Bulge?
We're building an alcove off the upstairs hallway. The entry hall has a double-high ceiling and we're going to put the alcove in the dead space on the second floor. We want to poke through one wall into the MBR and connect wiring for three outlets in the alcove on two walls (the rest of the alcove will be enclosed by railing open to the upstairs hallway).
Question: We don't want to bust open 20 feet of wall and pull the wiring throught he studs. Is there any king of surface wiring where you can recess the receptacles so they don't bulge out any more than the wiring itself, or are there any "almost flat" surface receptacles?
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08-09-2010, 05:05 PM
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08-09-2010, 08:13 PM
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This is an interesting article and gives a good explanation of how to install surface wiring and outlets. But, it doesn't answer my question about whether there are any surface outlets that don't bulge out any more than the wiring itself. The outlets (receptacles) bulge out much more, which what I would like to avoid, if possible.
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08-09-2010, 08:16 PM
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Take a look on Wiremold's website for shallow depth boxes. I'm not sure if they make any as shallow as the Wiremold itself.
This one is 15/16" deep:
http://www.amazon.com/Wiremold-B-2-S.../dp/B00004W3ZI
I don't know if you are going to find anything shallower.
Wiremold isn't the nicest looking thing. Why not just have an electrician come in, make a few holes, and run the receptacles the right way? Or you can always DIY it.
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08-09-2010, 08:39 PM
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Will this work?
http://www.arlcatalog.com/Fan_Specia...nstruction.htm
Or you could mount a recessed clock receptacle in a standard box.
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08-09-2010, 09:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OnThePike
How would surface-mount raceway (or similar) enjoin this legally?
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Surface mounted raceways are a recognized wiring method. Not the prettiest, but it does have its' place.
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08-09-2010, 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Port
Surface mounted raceways are a recognized wiring method. Not the prettiest, but it does have its' place.
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He is asking how a surface mounted raceway would intersect with the recessed box you linked to.
The OP is looking for a surface mount box that is no deeper than the raceway itself, which I doubt he is going to find.
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08-09-2010, 09:53 PM
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Thanks Proby, i thought I was missing something and I sure didn't understand what I thought was the legal talk.
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08-09-2010, 10:58 PM
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I concur with Proby that your not going to find a flush receptacle box with a surface mounted wiremold.. I'm no expert with the stuff but there are single receptacles that mount in the wiremold channel sorta like a power strip. This might be as close as your going to get.

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08-09-2010, 11:12 PM
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that picture would be of plugmold.
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08-10-2010, 11:47 AM
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Would it be possible to post a pic of the alcove and the wall?
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08-10-2010, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nap
that picture would be of plugmold.
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Well ok .. plugmold ...  It came off the legrand wiremold website. Anyway I never use the stuff so am totally unfamiliar with it. Just trying to see what might work by googling ... always risky when you don't have experience with the entire product line.
Hey did you see that "let me google it for you" that Speedy did on this thread ...
Multi-tap warehouse lights
kinda neat if you haven't seen it before
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08-10-2010, 04:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stubbie
Well ok .. plugmold ...  It came off the legrand wiremold website. Anyway I never use the stuff so am totally unfamiliar with it. Just trying to see what might work by googling ... always risky when you don't have experience with the entire product line.
Hey did you see that "let me google it for you" that Speedy did on this thread ...
Multi-tap warehouse lights
kinda neat if you haven't seen it before
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I wasn't trying to be nasty, just put a name with the product. That way, if they were interested in chasing that path, just gives them a bit more info to start with.
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08-10-2010, 05:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nap
I wasn't trying to be nasty, just put a name with the product. That way, if they were interested in chasing that path, just gives them a bit more info to start with. 
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Sorry didn't mean to make you think you were being nasty .. I knew what you were doing I was just poking some fun at myself mostly for being so freakin retarded at what the heck that stuff was.
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