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Old 10-27-2012, 06:57 PM   #31
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rjniles and oso954, those are interesting boxes... I wonder if those are code up here in Ontario, as I was planning on getting it inspected even though I was doing it myself. Thats actually a neat idea.

I have a 14g circuit for the lights and bath fan, and a 14g for the recepticals. SOooo I could change my wiring plan to make use of the pancake.

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How close to the edge of the stud is center?
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Unfortunately, it's almost dead center on the stud. I can shift left or right a bit based on moving the vanity a bit in either direction.
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If you can move the vanity that is fine. Easier to do that, than move a stud. Persoanlly the pancake box is going to be te quickest and easiset solution.
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Unfortunately, it's almost dead center on the stud. I can shift left or right a bit based on moving the vanity a bit in either direction.
Nail a new stud along side of the existing stud then notch the existing stud and install box on the new stud right where the notch is.
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Nail a new stud along side of the existing stud then notch the existing stud and install box on the new stud right where the notch is.
If the space isnt finished, this would clearly be the answer. I think the space is finished already though.
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they make a ceiling box that will stradle a stud
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they make a ceiling box that will stradle a stud
AKA,A pancake box.
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If the space isnt finished, this would clearly be the answer. I think the space is finished already though.
Good point. ANy of the options offered by some of the other profressionals is clearly better then having it off center by two inches. In a 20" space, 2" would stand out like a sore thumb and scream "an amature did this".
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There is no question. Install the stud straddling box and have it centered.
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Two styles are shown in post #23 and 26.
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Unfortunately, it's almost dead center on the stud. I can shift left or right a bit based on moving the vanity a bit in either direction.
Then use the box pictures in post#26 and be done with it.
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Don't assume a wall is load bearing or not by its direction or what is directly under a portion of it. It may support or be supported by joists or beams running perpendicular to it, soemtimes at some distance from where you are working, the entire wall is integrated, relying on each part to transfer load.

If twere me, and wall is open I would put in new studs a few inches to each side, so they're out of the way, no sistering,they're like 3 bucks a piece, and notch and leave in place the old one, you may need it there for wall board joint or hanging vanity and extra studs can help there too. But are any of these studs going to interfere with plumbing?

Even if you're a quarter inch off center, and you're the one who put it there, you're gonna see it every time you're within eye sight of it.
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The saddle box is what you want.

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Thanks notmrJohn and everyone else.

In terms of load bearing, there is definitely no perpendicular support underneath, other than the exterior wall at one end. I guess that still doesn't necessarily mean anything.
I will sister or add support if I do notch for sure. There is a chance it will interfere with plumbing, as I have vanity plumbing running through that wall. The biggest problem would be the drain, but I can deal with that if must be as I haven't finished that section anyhow. The supply plumbing I'm having another issue with and again, can address that if need be.

I'll see if I can find one of those saddle boxes, haven't seen them in Ontario before.

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