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Cossack 03-13-2008 08:59 PM

Stranded wire connections
 
I just bought a new Kenmore stove for the kitchen. The wires are just stranded like for a chandelier. I ran 6 gauge cable with a 50 amp breaker to the stove for power.

What is the secret to joining this stranded wire to such big wires? For that matter, is there any trick to joining regular 14 gauge wire to stranded wire for lights?

micromind 03-13-2008 09:29 PM

The stove likely has #10 stranded. Usually, a finer strand than building wire.

For something like this, I usually use the big blue wirenuts. Using your fingers (not pliers), twist the fine strands tight. Then, put the two wires side-by-side (no need to twist these together), make the smaller one stick out past the bigger one by about 1/16", put the wirenut on, and twist it as tight as you can with your hands. Then grab the wirenut with one hand, and try to pull each wire out with the other hand. If you can't, you've made a good splice.

When joining stranded to solid, make the stranded stick out past the solid slightly. When thghtening the wirenut, the stranded tends to twist around the solid, and 'leading' it a bit insures that all the strands get under the spring part of the wirenut.

Rob

Stubbie 03-13-2008 09:34 PM

Did you run 3 wire or 4 wire cable for the branch circuit to the stove/range?

220/221 03-13-2008 10:56 PM

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What is the secret to joining this stranded wire to such big wires?
Blue nuts and massive forearms :laughing:

The first thing is to cut the wires the same length. Strip them about an inch. Make sure the ends are almost even with the smaller wire a touch longer. The CRITICAL step is to hold the wires TIGHTLY between your thumb/finger as you press/twist the nut on. One of the wires will tend to push out if you don't hold them tightly. Once you get them snug you can carefully twist another turn with channel locks if you don't have the massive forarms. Don't over do it and compromise the plastic. Make sure there is no copper showing at the bottom of the nut.

Try and pull the wires one at a time from the nut. If it comes out, you didn't do it right.

Cossack 03-14-2008 07:01 PM

The cable I am bringing in is 6 gauge with a black, red, white, and neutral wire .

Cossack 03-14-2008 07:08 PM

220/221:

So I do not twist the wire before I put on the wire nut on?

Stubbie 03-14-2008 08:03 PM

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The cable I am bringing in is 6 gauge with a black, red, white, and neutral wire
That would be black,red,white(neutral) and the equipment ground wire :thumbsup:

Good that you ran 4 wires.

I'm still a little confused if you have a range with oven or a cooktop stove. Can you verify which you have? It would be a little odd for a range to have connection via an appliance whip like your describing. And it would also be odd that a cooktop needs a 50 amp circuit.

Can you give us the model# of the stove?

220/221 03-14-2008 10:56 PM

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So I do not twist the wire before I put on the wire nut on?

Correct. Just place them side by side.

Stranded wire doesn't like to pre twist. It will twist inside the nut.


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