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Old 04-28-2011, 10:34 PM   #16
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I don't really blame him, if I didn't think there was a chance I'd run into an issue I wouldn't have minded doing the calculation - and I am certain I wouldn't have any problems with my configuration as it stands today (I have no central air and possess no window AC). I am less certain that I'd have available capacity for electric baseboard in the garage with my eventual plans for increasing livable floor space and getting central air installed. Then again, when am I going to use central air and garage baseboard heat at the same time? Or for that matter, how likely am I to be welding in the garage and needing more than 100 amps during the heating season. (Maybe some light welding indoors in the winter, but if I'm ever doing heavy welds I'm going to want the garage door open.

It may have been more that I did state that I was using 1/0 feeder and that I recognized that table 310.16 rates it at 120 amps but since the next standard size up is 125, I wanted to know if he'd allow it and that I was considering electric baseboard heat in the garage - somewhat implying I expected to be at capacity in the garage without the extra 125 amps.

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BAseboard heat will be the most expensive way to heat the garage....and it will make your electrical load much greater. I'd stick with gas if possible....perhaps a heater hung from the rafters.
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Well... the idea is that I could install electric baseboard heat myself at considerably less expense, and for the amount of time I'd heat the workshop (weekends only, probably never a full weekend) it would take many years before the extra cost added up to as much as I'd spend on a heater, ducting, venting and professional labor.

Also the electric heater would be less prone to introducing humidity than petroleum based portable heating methods.

And it's all a long way off. The garage... has insulation in the workshop, panelling in the workshop, then an open doorway to the garage bay where there is insulation in the walls with no drywall or panelling, and then the rafters are wide open exposed. So none of the insulation is worth anything and needs to be replaced.

Plus I know there are squirrels that have lived in the attic and/or walls. And I have no interest in openning walls or ceilings until I'm ready to do the full job that will come with it.

And the roof will need to be ventilated, the trusses redesigned, joists sistered and upsized so I can get storage above.

So in short, I'm just trying to do what I need to do, but do it in a way that gives me options for what I expect to do later.
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Then again, when am I going to use central air and garage baseboard heat at the same time? .
they allow for that when you do your calcs
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BB heat is most expensive when it comes to operating costs. But cheap on the installation costs.

I'd be willing to bet that after a month or 2 of using that out there -- once you get the electric bill -- you'll think twice ( or more) before using that stuff again!

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