Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Electrical

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-06-2013, 02:42 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 773
Rewards Points: 522
Default

Steel fish tape broke


I have a broken Klein 1/8" steel fish tape. 125' long but broken I think there is 80' or so left in the reel.

How do I "bend" the end to make the hooking loop thingie?

Or is there a retrofit "head" I can clamp on to the end to make a new head?

Or should I drill a small 1/16" hole and thread a couple of strands of wire through to make a soft loop?

Is it even worth repairing? I hardly ever need one may be a couple of times a year the most.

Are the new fiberglass ones better for fish conductors through conduits?

miamicuse is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2013, 02:47 PM   #2
Electrician
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 1,148
Rewards Points: 512
Default

Steel fish tape broke


A pair of linesman and channel locks should get you a nice new head.

darren is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2013, 05:11 PM   #3
Member
 
deverson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 139
Rewards Points: 77
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Put it in a vise. Heat the last 1 1/2 " red hot. Bend the last 1/2" tight and then bent a hook about again and let cool.
deverson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2013, 07:21 PM   #4
Master Electrician
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 1,165
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Or just use pliers as previously stated.
__________________
Sarcasm is my friend
I'm here to learn too, i do mostly commercial/industrial/new construction and this place is a great way to pick up tips on residential from some good electrical minds. Excuse the spelling, my phone has a mind of it's own.
andrew79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2013, 07:22 PM   #5
Master Electrician
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Toronto Ontario
Posts: 1,165
Rewards Points: 500
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Fibertapes are generally used for applications where you may end up in a live panel or live electrical room. They aren't all that rugged.
__________________
Sarcasm is my friend
I'm here to learn too, i do mostly commercial/industrial/new construction and this place is a great way to pick up tips on residential from some good electrical minds. Excuse the spelling, my phone has a mind of it's own.
andrew79 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2013, 07:49 PM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 164
Rewards Points: 150
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew79 View Post
Or just use pliers as previously stated.
you will end up with an even shorter tape. Bending a small hook will usually snap the end it is better to heat it and bend a small hook.
__________________
RIP EJT
usair is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to usair For This Useful Post:
MTN REMODEL LLC (07-06-2013)
Old 07-06-2013, 08:11 PM   #7
Member
 
deverson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 139
Rewards Points: 77
Default

Steel fish tape broke


From the ideal site.
Pretty tough to fashion with pliers

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/...psa1568e5a.jpg
deverson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 07:41 AM   #8
Electrician
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 1,148
Rewards Points: 512
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Quote:
Originally Posted by deverson View Post
From the ideal site.
Pretty tough to fashion with pliers

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/...psa1568e5a.jpg
Are you guys electricians? I have bent my own hook numerous times. Bend it over with your linesman, flatten it out with channel locks and tape it up.

It does not have to look like the hook in the picture.
darren is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to darren For This Useful Post:
jbfan (07-08-2013), wirenut1110 (07-07-2013)
Old 07-07-2013, 07:47 AM   #9
Electrical Contractor
 
wirenut1110's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Chester, VA.
Posts: 1,049
Rewards Points: 500
Send a message via AIM to wirenut1110
Default

Steel fish tape broke


I definitely don't bend it like the picture. Even with tape, it gets hung up on the way back in a panel, box, etc.

I bend it back like a teardrop so to speak.
wirenut1110 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to wirenut1110 For This Useful Post:
darren (07-07-2013)
Old 07-07-2013, 07:48 AM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 164
Rewards Points: 150
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Quote:
Originally Posted by darren View Post
Are you guys electricians? I have bent my own hook numerous times. Bend it over with your linesman, flatten it out with channel locks and tape it up.

It does not have to look like the hook in the picture.
Grandpa use to say their are a hundred ways to do it but only one right way.
__________________
RIP EJT
usair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 07:49 AM   #11
Licensed Electrical Cont.
 
Speedy Petey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: NY State
Posts: 6,867
Rewards Points: 2,038
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Quote:
Originally Posted by deverson View Post
From the ideal site.
Pretty tough to fashion with pliers

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/...psa1568e5a.jpg
No it's not. You DO NOT need that silly double-loop thingy. Just bend it over once.
__________________
Sometimes I feel like if I answer any more questions it is like someone trying to climb over a fence to jump off a bridge and me giving them a boost.
Answers based on the 2008 & 2011 NEC.
Speedy Petey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 07:57 AM   #12
Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 164
Rewards Points: 150
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
No it's not. You DO NOT need that silly double-loop thingy. Just bend it over once.
You don't need a parachute when you jump out of a plane you will be fine on the trip down.

The bull nose serves a purpose other than something to hook the wires to it also allows you to push the tape into the conduit and the double bull nose allows you to pull the tape out without it hanging up.
__________________
RIP EJT
usair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 08:14 AM   #13
Licensed Pro
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SC
Posts: 1,544
Rewards Points: 1,000
Default

Steel fish tape broke


Quote:
Originally Posted by usair
You don't need a parachute when you jump out of a plane you will be fine on the trip down.

The bull nose serves a purpose other than something to hook the wires to it also allows you to push the tape into the conduit and the double bull nose allows you to pull the tape out without it hanging up.
Just add one of these to the end. http://www.idealindustries.com/prodD...?prodId=31-148
__________________
"Life is hard. Life is harder when you're stupid." John Wayne
HouseHelper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2013, 08:19 AM   #14
Licensed Electrician
 
k_buz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SE Wisconsin
Posts: 4,340
Rewards Points: 2,000
Default

Steel fish tape broke


If you can't pull a fishtape out of a conduit without the second loop on the end, you need to stop running conduit.
__________________
__________________________________________________ ______________
Answers based on the National Electric Code. Always check local amendments.


k_buz is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to k_buz For This Useful Post:
darren (07-07-2013), Speedy Petey (07-07-2013), stickboy1375 (07-07-2013)
Old 07-07-2013, 11:49 AM   #15
Member
 
deverson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 139
Rewards Points: 77
Default

Steel fish tape broke


I don't like the idea of that sharp edge with some 33 on it. A few too many times the tape has slid off the end and after a loud boom some wire has to be replaced.

deverson is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What causes bubbles in paper tape? ponch37300 Drywall & Plaster 34 05-25-2013 10:50 AM
Electrical Friction Tape maddog1 Electrical 10 04-16-2013 12:03 PM
Scotch Edgelock Tape: My afternoon entertainment bokeh Painting 5 06-20-2011 09:17 PM
First time taping - Tape has air under it theedudenator Drywall & Plaster 16 04-21-2010 11:13 PM
Paint pull-up!?!? with BM Aura Bath & Spa, GE Silicone II, and PM Green tape DIYatHome Painting 8 12-12-2009 03:52 AM




Top of Page | View New Posts

Copyright © 2003-2014 Escalate Media. All Rights Reserved.