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Old 05-13-2011, 08:47 AM   #31
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I mean i know its not a good thing gzzzz. I was just wondering how people were doing it without getting caught or electrocuted.
I know that a lot of the older homes with the mast in the wall have had a new mast installed outside so it's harder to steal. My uncle was renovating a house where they cut the mast in the attic, pulled the wires out and tapped into them with clamp-on connectors (and big ballz)

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A great song about this practice!

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I mean i know its not a good thing gzzzz. I was just wondering how people were doing it without getting caught or electrocuted.
I think that as far as not getting caught, certainly as far as Detroit is concerned with 60,000 illegal hookups, the problem is that there are so many and I kid you not, there is a movement by the Socialists to oppose disconnecting services. I'm not just saying Socialists in the sense that conservatives call things liberals do socialist, I mean seriously - when I was searching, a lot of links went to the World Socialist Web.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/ma...util-m16.shtml

I suspect that the move to smart meters which allows the utility to remotely take meter reads might be part of trying to detect illegal setups by giving them a better capability to read legal usage in real time and thus identify where actual use is more than legal usage.

And I guess that kind of gives you that part of the answer, the only way to detect illegal usage is by identifying that your demand isn't fully accounted for, and if you need to have eyes on a meter to account for usage, it's very labor intensive. This will change as metering becomes networked.

As far as safety, of course there are safe ways of doing hookups and these methods are done by the utility companies. No idea what the training or equipment involved would be, I'm doing a service move and upgrade on my house and I've followed my POCO's manual to comlete my part of the work which includes the service mast wiring, meter socket, panel etc. but all of the work is done, of course, with nothing energized.
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A great song about this practice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OciCzKgGY0
Ack! I have a few ex-pats near my desk from south of the border! I don't usually listen to anything at work and for some reason I decided to listen to this before read the lyrics.
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I can't remember now if it was on the news or a picture that one of my LEO or fire fighter buddy's had, but in one instance in Detroit last summer, I remember clearly seeing a pair of automotive type jumper cables running down from the entrance cables at the top of the mast, obviously ahead of the meter. What the heck? About the same O.D. as my service entrance cables, maybe even a bit bigger. Should be no problem.
I heard a similar story about a meth head who's power was cut out decided to go out to his front yard and hook up jumper cables to try and steal power.

What was he thinking?? Seriously, what did he think he was going to hook up the jumper cables to?
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Afterward he thought about how a firefighter could have been killed and ripped the entire thing out within a day or two.
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glad to hear he saw the light before anybody else saw "the light". Just in case he, or anybody else doesn't realize it but not only could somebody been killed but the guy responsible could have been criminally tried for negligently causing the death.

I remember reading several years ago where an electrician(?) installed a heater in a house. There was something illegal about the install. It caused a house fire, a child (if I remember correctly) was killed. The electrician(?) was setting in prison the last I heard.
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Ack! I have a few ex-pats near my desk from south of the border! I don't usually listen to anything at work and for some reason I decided to listen to this before read the lyrics.
Whoops, sorry about that.
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I don't understand how people are getting away with stealing electricity? Can someone tell me exactly how they are doing it without being electrocuted?
I remember the old meters at our marina would run backwards if you turned them upside down.
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The firefighters, when they enter, often find homes festooned with a spaghetti of crosslinked extension cords, often wirenutted together because regular power strips won't hold, connected to PG&E's service lines upstream from the disconnected meter - a popular method is to wrap heavy gauge copper wire - your 'service main' - around a C-Clamp that you then screw down onto the PG&E line. (Wearing heavy rubber gloves, I assume)
The irony would be if one of those guys who steals the copper wire out of abandoned and unfinished homes were to snag a grower's rigged-up copper main.
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Anyone ever watch the show Trailer Park Boys? It's a pretty good guide on stealing power. They only get shocked and burn things down once or twice. I believe jumper cables were involved on one occasion.

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Anyone ever watch the show Trailer Park Boys? It's a pretty good guide on stealing power. They only get electrocuted and burn things down once or twice. I believe jumper cables were involved on one occasion.
you can only get electrocuted once in life.

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you can only get electrocuted once in life.
You are correct. My dire error has been edited above so that future visitors to this forum don't accidentally infer that they've risen from the dead after receiving an electric shock.
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Electrocution works both ways. It's basically a boolan increment. If you are alive, it kills you, but if you're dead, it resurrects you. Doctors do it all the time on TV!
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Hollywood Algebra according to RS
A=Alive
D=Dead
E=Electrocution

(A+E=D),(D+E=A)
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Is this a retouched picture (perhaps using Photoshop)?

Looks like bare feet to me.

Hmmm. Let's make this into a "What's wrong in this picture" puzzle.

2. He has no tools or toolbelt.
3. What he is doing with his hands does not look like an electrician's activity.
4. The in-line insulator at his knee holding up the wire to the left of it is not attached to anything to its right.
5. (you finish the story)

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