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Old 05-12-2011, 12:36 PM   #16
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Not their "brightest" moment, eh?
(well, ok, maybe for a SECOND they were bright....)
It's sad the lengths people will go to be dishonest.

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Old 05-12-2011, 12:36 PM   #17
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I think that is ready.

And LOL at the second article. Even if this guy had succeeded, what is he going to do with 7000 or more volts? That's 58 light bulbs in serries. I guess it's doable lol.
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Old 05-12-2011, 02:42 PM   #18
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lol a metal ladder and jumper cables...genius. Anyways dude if you think were gonna tell you step by step instructions on how it's done, your an idiot. On second thought, get a 30' metal ladder and some jumper cables. When you get that stuff, let us know, we'll tell you what to do next.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:20 PM   #19
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I think we're being hypocritical here. After all, we give advice to the folks growing pot in their basement all the time - I mean people with questions about full spectrum lighting, dehumidifying and hydroponics.

And WOW that picture is GROSS!
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I think the question was how is it done with out electrocution ?
If things are the same in USA as to in Australia then it goes like this -
The supply comes into the board and first goes to the main switch.
From there it goes to the meter,
And from meter goes to breakers.

So if you first turn off the main switch,
Then you can remove the wire that goes to the meter,
And insert a wire that goes to the breakers,
And if the main switch is still off,
Then this side of the switch is not live.

NOT THAT I AM ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO DO THIS !
CAUSE YOU WILL GET CAUGHT !

but on a technical level that is how it is done.
I have seen a few cases of this happening.
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On most installations in the US, the meter is first, then the service disconnect.

You have no way of turning that meter off, unless you violate the utility's domain.
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in the US, there is no disconnect, typically, from the POCO connection (all the way back to the transformer) all the way to the service disconnect at the service with the meter being in that path. One would have to work it hot to be able to tap the line side of the meter.
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in the US, there is no disconnect, typically, from the POCO connection (all the way back to the transformer) all the way to the service disconnect at the service with the meter being in that path. One would have to work it hot to be able to tap the line side of the meter.
Some grow op people manage this while tapping into underground service feeders.
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I think we're being hypocritical here. After all, we give advice to the folks growing pot in their basement all the time - I mean people with questions about full spectrum lighting, dehumidifying and hydroponics.
Haha I love those type of questions.

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This is actually a very hot topic here in 'Babylon by the Bay' at the moment.

With the rash of foreclosures there are many hundreds of vacant properties that have been boarded up by the banks that own them that have been, inside, converted to pot farms. With the massive demands that such houses have for power when there's hydroponics in every room, many burst into flames each week. The firefighters, when they enter, often find homes festooned with a spaghetti of crosslinked extension cords, often wirenutted together because regular power strips won't hold, connected to PG&E's service lines upstream from the disconnected meter - a popular method is to wrap heavy gauge copper wire - your 'service main' - around a C-Clamp that you then screw down onto the PG&E line. (Wearing heavy rubber gloves, I assume)

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I mean i know its not a good thing gzzzz. I was just wondering how people were doing it without getting caught or electrocuted.
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Some grow op people manage this while tapping into underground service feeders.
yep and I know plenty of people that have done this as part of their job. There are ways to do this reasonably safely, if you know what you are doing but for the average idiot, it's a quick way to get turned into a ripper (that's a hot dog that splits open when you deep fry it).

I've always like these pics







but what I want to know is: in the first pic; what is the photographer on that he is eye level with the guy standing on top of a pole?
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He's probably on a cherry picker from the power company asking the guy what hell are you doing there. You know you can be killed in a split second?
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Long story short, many years ago had a buddy who picked up the power lines at the peak of the house and spliced in a cable to his attic (couldn't see it from the ground) before the meter, installed a 60 amp fused disconnect and ran the line all the way to his garage where he had a 60 amp panel that fed a clothes dryer, outlets, electric heat, lighting, A/C and tools. Well he had a house fire and the fire dept responded pulled the meter and put out the fire. Afterward he thought about how a firefighter could have been killed and ripped the entire thing out within a day or two.
He then hooked the garage up to his main panel. Talk about a close call and scared. He's been law abiding all these years later.
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I can't remember now if it was on the news or a picture that one of my LEO or fire fighter buddy's had, but in one instance in Detroit last summer, I remember clearly seeing a pair of automotive type jumper cables running down from the entrance cables at the top of the mast, obviously ahead of the meter. What the heck? About the same O.D. as my service entrance cables, maybe even a bit bigger. Should be no problem.

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