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Old 12-28-2012, 06:36 PM   #16
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I got the under ground PVC and the wire run in it from the garage to the house . It got dark on me so I decided to wait til in the morning to hook them up. It was a tough job and plenty of mud since it snowed here at Christmas.

I pulled the old wires from the old pvc and sure enough the foundation people hd jack hammered right into the old pvc and didn't bother to fix it so over time water seeped in and deteriorated the knicked wires and that is why the power went out. I have no idea why the breaker didn't trip but it has all new pipie and wires now.

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It was messy but I kept wiping everything clean as I assembled it all. I will have power in the morning
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Old 12-28-2012, 07:43 PM   #18
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how deep is that?
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Just look at one of the ells you can tell how deep is that and that is no way it can be more than 8 inches deep that is a major volation no question asked.

Normally it should be 18 inches deep for conduit but direct burial it will be deeper useally at 24 inches beside there is one extempt if only single circuit less than 20 amp and have GFCI then it can be shallow as 8 to 12 inches.( the state/local codes may varies so check it out )

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That's why I questioned it I could see the ell way above grade. And people wonder why I have to charge so much. They are like how hard can it be to cost that much. Some think even wires without conduit can go 6 inches. I go really deep for new construction because usually someone has a nice piece of equipment there and can give them a few bucks to do a trench. Then I don't have to worry about it being made shallow with grading of the yard.
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8 1/2 inch on one end ( the one with the elbow ) and 12 inches in the middle and 10 going into the garage. I got everything back working and it works like a charm. Used 6/3 with ground romex heavy duty ( the casing on each wire was encased in plastic coating on top of the regular wire casing and the very outside casing holding the romex together is real thick . I know the depth is not code but the original was the same depth. And I needed to get it done as quick as possible. I made sure I used PLENTY of pipe glue so it would be sealed and let it dry for 5 days to make sure the air got to it.

By the way here is a picture of the jack hammered wire with a piece of concrete still attached


Any way THANKS for all the help
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I hope you are describing UF cable and not Romex. Romex is not approved for wet location (conduit). Conduit will get wet no matter how well you sealed the sections. Your burial depth will never pass an inspection.
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What size breaker did you use? If you used UF-B wire you could feed it with GFCI breaker and that would make a lot safer with that shallow depth.

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