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Old 11-10-2012, 10:10 AM   #31
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No, you can do that for us.

99% of people just want to make a phone call and get their propane refilled. If you want to be a slave to fuel cans and manually filling generators that's fine. Your average person from NJ or NY probably feels different.
I got 600 gallons of home heating oil (aka untaxed diesel) delivered this week, one phone call, delivered next day and pumped into my storage tank. No harder than calling to get a propane tank filled.

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Old 11-10-2012, 10:28 AM   #32
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I got 600 gallons of home heating oil (aka untaxed diesel) delivered this week, one phone call, delivered next day and pumped into my storage tank. No harder than calling to get a propane tank filled.
So that means you have 600gal oil tank sitting somewhere?
Larger propane tanks can still be put in the ground. And Nat has no tanks.

I am by no means questioning the efficiency of diesel. I am however making the comparison between ease of use, efficiency of delivery, cleanliness, maintenance, aesthetics, etc, or LP/Nat over diesel.......FOR THE AVERAGE HOME-OWNER.
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Approximate Diesel Generator Fuel Consumption Chart

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I'd like to hear about someone having a 600gal diesel tank installed at their house today
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Thanks. Looks like that site linked previously had a few typos.
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Thanks. Looks like that site linked previously had a few typos.
You mean there are typos out there that aren't mine?
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I got 600 gallons of home heating oil (aka untaxed diesel) delivered this week, one phone call, delivered next day and pumped into my storage tank. No harder than calling to get a propane tank filled.
Just bought a small portable gas unit but would like stand-by power at some point. We have no access to NG and LP sounds like a nogo for storage concerns. I do have HHO for my furnace and hot water needs. Do you know if diesel gensets are acceptable in residential installations? Also there is some concern about what the oil companies add to HHO on a seasonal basis and how that impacts the motor itself.
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We have no access to NG and LP sounds like a nogo for storage concerns.
Why is this on LI? Too close to property lines?
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Just bought a small portable gas unit but would like stand-by power at some point. We have no access to NG and LP sounds like a nogo for storage concerns. I do have HHO for my furnace and hot water needs. Do you know if diesel gensets are acceptable in residential installations? Also there is some concern about what the oil companies add to HHO on a seasonal basis and how that impacts the motor itself.
Ask around and see if it's even possible to store diesel on your property.
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Why is this on LI? Too close to property lines?
I live in a post-war development that for some reason never had NG lines installed. Everytime there is an oil crisis it gets discussed so it is possible but we never get enough signatures for our utility company(LIPA/NATIONAL GRID) to install the infrastructure. You are right though most areas on Long Island have NG and if I lived in one of those areas I would be getting quotes for a NG stand-by system as we speak. We've been affected by 3 major storms in 3 years up here. IMHO a generator is becoming a necessity and if I were building a house today stand-by power would be a must-have on my build list.
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Look, lets face facts. Its not going to be cheap to run any generator 24 Hrs a day. If it were, we wouldn't need the POCO.
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Ask around and see if it's even possible to store diesel on your property.
I really don't want to have any additional fuel storage on my property, though if using my existing HHO tank is not an option I would consider an underground storage tank. I would imagine that there may be environmental concerns. I know new diesel engines are burning cleaner all the time but clean enough for densely populated areas I'm not so sure. The houses on our block are pretty close together. I will be looking into the HHO option as soon as things normalize up here. Thank you.
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"The houses on our block are pretty close together".

my 3 cyl diesel is relatively quiet if you are wondering about noise; It is built for an rv and it is compact and you really do not realize it is 12kw. I have used it off grid for over 3 years now. It is easy to work on and I have it on a stand. the stand allows me to work on it at eye level.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/o...iet-diesel.htm
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"The houses on our block are pretty close together".

my 3 cyl diesel is relatively quiet if you are wondering about noise; It is built for an rv and it is compact and you really do not realize it is 12kw. I have used it off grid for over 3 years now. It is easy to work on and I have it on a stand. the stand allows me to work on it at eye level.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/o...iet-diesel.htm
Noise is a concern but I would be more concerned with emissions. I don't need to run the whole house so I'm sure I could get away 3kw or so. Not sure if stand-by gensets come that small or not but that would fill the bill. Somthing like this: http://www.kipor.com/product/xiangxi...0839552&id=215

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It's amazing how many of us missed the date on this 11 month old post....

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