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n0c7 10-05-2013 12:44 AM

I have new halo brand 4" recessed cans H99ICAT with 993P baffles. These fixtures with this baffle are supposed to use 50w PAR20 bulbs.

If I was to use a standard 60w incandescent bulb would there be heat issue?

I plan to use LED but they haven't arrived yet.

n0c7 10-05-2013 01:08 AM

I ran a test knowing these had a thermal shutoff. Less than 20 minutes in a cold wind and they shut off with a 60w incandescent. Surprising since halogens are so much hotter.

Oso954 10-05-2013 01:19 AM

The spec actually reads a 50W PAR 20 with a H1999 socket extender.
An A19 bulb (your regular 60W bulb) is not approved with the 993 trim.

The only trim listed on their spec sheet for an A19 with that can, is the ERT413. It is limited to 40W.

n0c7 10-05-2013 01:28 AM

Yup socket extender as well. These fixtures have been the biggest rip off.

k_buz 10-05-2013 08:12 AM

Rip off? Please explain. It sounds like you didn't do your homework before choosing the can/trim and now it's Halo's fault.

RoyalAcresRod 10-05-2013 08:43 AM

The rated PAR20 bulbs direct the heat downward. If you use a regular bulb..as you found...the thermal switch will not be far behind.

There is nothing wrong with the fixtures if used as directed.

n0c7 10-05-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k_buz
Rip off? Please explain. It sounds like you didn't do your homework before choosing the can/trim and now it's Halo's fault.

I knew I needed a can and a trim but didnt know they sell a fixture rated for a 35w bulb which is impossible to find.


Fixture - $20
Trim - $17
Socket extender - $10

They should design the fixture to work with industry standard bulbs or include proper hardware. Poorly made cheap expensive fixtures. Rip off.

k_buz 10-05-2013 12:40 PM

The fixture isn't rated for any specific lamp. It's the trim that determines the lamp rating.

Oso954 10-05-2013 01:38 PM

Quote:

they sell a fixture rated for a 35w bulb which is impossible to find.
Maybe you need to talk to your store managers up there. find out why you are having a problem.
A 35W PAR20 shouldn't be that difficult to find. I can walk into almost any hardware or home improvement store and pick one up. It is a very standard bulb.

That or you can go up to 50 watts with your socket extender. Either PAR 20 or R20.

This 45W R20 is a great bulb for that can.
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/45w-...-3-pack/968895

stickboy1375 10-05-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n0c7 (Post 1249771)
I knew I needed a can and a trim but didnt know they sell a fixture rated for a 35w bulb which is impossible to find.


Fixture - $20
Trim - $17
Socket extender - $10

They should design the fixture to work with industry standard bulbs or include proper hardware. Poorly made cheap expensive fixtures. Rip off.

Well you can always buy the $100 dollar cans.... your choice.


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