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Old 08-06-2012, 09:59 PM   #1
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I want to put sensor lighting for night time into either each step or just the landing. Is there engineer issues to do this when I start cutting holes? it's closed in steps so I figured it would not be an issue. Anyone else have any knowledge on this?

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Old 08-07-2012, 04:57 AM   #2
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I would look in a marine catalog for deck/dock or step lights that will look nice and recess into the risers (if you put them in the treads or landing they will glare up at you). Regular lighting suppliers will have them too but they will be more expensive. You will be able to run them on a low voltage transformer. There are similar line voltage lights. You might as well see if LEDs are within your budget. You can put whatever lights on whatever sensor, timer or switch you want.

Did a quick search for fun. These are not that glamorous looking but are only $11 for a 3 LED white fixture for low voltage. Rated for 100,000 hours!

http://www.wholesalemarine.com/p/I-L-003-5200-7/

You can cut the holes for them with a jigsaw or a router or rototool. A multi-tool will also work. Looks like the one at the URL is low profile surface mount. Not sure what code is going to be for boxing the connections. Line voltage will need boxes I suspect.

I assume you can still get under the staircase for wiring? Make sure you get fixtures that give you access to the bulbs from the front if you plan to seal up the back of the staircase? Or build an access panel.


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Old 08-07-2012, 05:23 AM   #3
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:39 AM   #4
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There are a number of options from automatic lights (comes on automatically as you enter the stairs) to just normal stair lights. If you Google Stair Lights you will find lots of good options. You sure have a nice blank canvas there, as long as you have access to the back for wiring as sdsester noted you will be good to go. If you are using 12 volt class 2 lighting you will have no issue making joints that are not in metal junction boxes. Your joints will be made using wire connectors and simply left in the open area of your stairs in a similar method that you would wire up in ground 12 volt patio lights without the need for metal boxes.
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:53 AM   #5
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Thank you for your time and help. Yes have full access behind the entire stairs. So this plastic stair light from home depot I found will just use the regular wire drawing power from 14-2 wire in a outlet? Or is there another way to power them i'm missing? I remember when my basement was gutted they found a light set up like that and they said it was wrong. It was regular wire not the 14-2 from light to power source an outlet. I must sound so amateurish lol.
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Interior residential connections have to be boxed. So you will need a box on the back of each riser (or bottom of each tread) where you are making a wire connection for a fixture. Your power supply will go into the box as will the wires from the light fixture. You will wire nut the connection and pigtail a ground wire in each.
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Here is an example of the marine stair lighting that sd was talking about. This is from a boat that a friend of mine has....the lighting is all low voltage LED.

You could easily control it with an occupancy sensor....I just installed one in a closet and it works much better than I expected....the one I have has a daylight sensor so that it does not turn on if there is enough natural light.

Another variation of the ligting is to put it in the side wall...that way you avoid issues of drilling into the stair treads.

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I just did a set of stairs with flat strip LEDs located under the nose of each step shining downwards. Looks great. Add a motion sensor on the wall top and bottom and they'll come on automatically.
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I just did a set of stairs with flat strip LEDs located under the nose of each step shining downwards. Looks great. Add a motion sensor on the wall top and bottom and they'll come on automatically.
Andrew....any chance of pics?

Did you use low voltage? Where did you get them?
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It's done at a hotel we're building. I can snap a pic but the stairs are still steel. Marble isn't installed yet. They're low voltage with a dimmable driver.
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