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Old 11-21-2007, 07:09 PM   #1
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As were doing some work in the kitchen, we turned off the circuit breaker. None of the work were doing was electrical - it was just a precaution. When we turned it back on, only one outlet was working! The other three were not. There are 3 appliances on this curcuit (fridge, microwave & garbage disposal).

The fridge works A-OK, but suddenly now the microwave & disposal aren't getting any power. They worked fine when I connected an extension cord to another source. And there IS juice getting to the outlets but the outlets themsleves are no longer converting.

Is there any cause or remedy for this? Should I just replace the outlets? Is it something in the box?

ANY help or advice would be great. Thanks!
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:22 PM   #2
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is there a GFI?
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:40 PM   #3
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GFI maybe behind the fridge? Were you doing any demo work on that wall?
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Old 11-21-2007, 07:59 PM   #4
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How old is the house. Possibly loose connection. POWER OFF and start the hunt if it ain't a GFCI.

The hunt is my favourite.

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Old 11-21-2007, 09:17 PM   #5
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And there IS juice getting to the outlets but the outlets themsleves are no longer converting.
What does this mean? Have you tested the outlets, and found that they have 120V, but the appliances don't work when plugged in?

If that's the case, I think you might have an open neutral between the fridge receptacle, and the next receptacle downstream.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:44 PM   #6
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I agree that you should check for a GFI behind the fridge. However, microwaves on the load side of a GFI sometimes nuisance trip. This is a more likely scenario:
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If that's the case, I think you might have an open neutral between the fridge receptacle, and the next receptacle downstream.
If you do have an open neutral, please find out if it is connected to a multiwire branch circuit. (two hots sharing a neutral). If it is, kill BOTH circuits before splicing it again. Getting hit on an open neutral is no fun. Especially under load. Good hunting!
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Old 11-21-2007, 10:42 PM   #7
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Flip the breaker a few times. Sometimes they don't like to come back on.
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:20 AM   #8
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Flip the breaker a few times. Sometimes they don't like to come back on.
Huh??
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It is VERY odd for a fridge, being on a small appliance countertop outlet branch circuit, to be on the same circuit as a disposal, which should NOT be on the small appliance branch circuit, to be sharing the same breaker. Is this a 1 pole or 2 pole breaker? Further, if the microwave is a plug-in, countertop model, it can go anywhere, but if it's a built-in, over-the-stove combination microwave / vent hood built into the cabinets, that too should not be on the SABC either. Maybe you have a 2-pole breaker and one side isn't resetting?
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Old 11-22-2007, 07:03 AM   #10
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Thus my question...How old is the house. My parents house (1980) is one big happy circuit going around the kitchen and catching the garage for good measure.
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You've never seen a breaker that didn't want to reset?


I have....many times.


I have had them NEVER come back on, or only one pole of a two pole comes on.
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You've never seen a breaker that didn't want to reset?


I have....many times.


I have had them NEVER come back on, or only one pole of a two pole comes on.
Gosh 220, I'd replace the breaker at that point. If it is resetting into a fault, I believe "technically" it has to be replaced after two resets. If it is just being stubborn on a clear circuit, I tend to lose faith and replace the breaker...Don't want to put peoples lives at risk with a sticky breaker that once I have forced it closed may not open under fault conditions.

Off to eat turkey.
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It is VERY odd for a fridge, being on a small appliance countertop outlet branch circuit, to be on the same circuit as a disposal, which should NOT be on the small appliance branch circuit, to be sharing the same breaker.
I wasn't suggesting that they were. I was thinking that they may be part of a MWBC. If you lost the noodle on one, you'd "lose power" on both. Just a thought. Happy turkey day everyone!
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