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Old 04-21-2013, 04:53 PM   #16
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then you've got a hot and neutral connected to the switch legs.

Pull down all the wires from the ceiling box (Don't remove any wire nuts).

Spread them out as well as you can, and take a new pic of what you've got up there. Use a flash, if you can.

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OK, here's the picture. There are two sides... both sides both have two places where wires CAN come out. The side on the left only has a single trio and that's the one where there is no power. Both trios of wires coming out on the right have a black/ground combination with the voltmeter.

The wire nuts are connecting from the one black that has no power to a black that does. This is the same scenario that's caused with the white and ground wires. Does this help at all? Thanks again.
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Old 04-21-2013, 07:53 PM   #18
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I have an update for you:
I just hooked up the wires that were NOT wire nutted in the picture above to the fixture. And now EVERYTHING... ALMOST works. I got my stove and microwave and my track lighting to work again... but now the fixture I just installed doesn't work for some reason... I wonder if that's a fixture problem or a wiring issue...
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I have an update for you:
I just hooked up the wires that were NOT wire nutted in the picture above to the fixture. And now EVERYTHING... ALMOST works. I got my stove and microwave and my track lighting to work again... but now the fixture I just installed doesn't work for some reason... I wonder if that's a fixture problem or a wiring issue...
Ya almost there but any chance do you have DVM ( digial voltmeter ) ? if so before you start this part .,

Look at the switch itself and tell us excatally what ya see in the switch box and I know the standard switch loop typically use both white et black conductors on that switch if that is the case read on .,

Now if that is true ya have switch loop then go back up and take a masking tape or whatever ya have on hand and mark the conductors so you will know which one ya are dealing and take the DVM and set on ohm scale ( warning make sure you get this zut circuit off first ! ) and unhook only one pair of cables and ring it out with the switch on and off postion if the switch off postion the DVM will not change the reading and hit the switch on postion it will change the reading to very low numbers or zero one of the two.

Once you find the correct pair take a black tape or other coloured tape and tape that white switch loop conductor so you know this is a hot "white " conductor ( that will be wirenutted to the other two black conductors ) and the other black conductor that will be used with the luminaire black conductor. The white luminaire conductors will go with other white conductors in the junction box.

That should work if still not getting any reading then a good possiblty that the switch is shot or damaged so replace that switch and it should work by that time.

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I have an update for you:
I just hooked up the wires that were NOT wire nutted in the picture above to the fixture. And now EVERYTHING... ALMOST works. I got my stove and microwave and my track lighting to work again... but now the fixture I just installed doesn't work for some reason... I wonder if that's a fixture problem or a wiring issue...
You have a wiring issue. You have essentially connected your fixture to the 2 wires of the switch loop. Dead wires all around = no light.

TAKE the loose white wire and connect it together with the 2 blacks in the wire nut. Do not connect anything else with these 3 wires.

NOW connect your fixture's white wire in the wire nut with the other 2 white wires, and connect your fixture's black wire to the remaining loose black wire left.

Report back with your results.
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YES! Now it ALL works! Woohoo! Thanks for your help! (and now the fun part... getting the fixture permanently mounted to the ceiling...)
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Take pics BEFORE working on the next project. And I write down a description of the connections too, just in case.

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