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Old 01-05-2009, 11:15 PM   #16
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I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that if I run the heaters at the same time that I could have an unsafe condition inside the panel itself? How can I be sure to avoid this?
I don't know if you are bringing 2 sets of wires from different outlet circuits into a control box or not but if you do and they are on circuit breakers from opposite sides of the main panel they have a potential of 240 volts between the 2 hot legs of the separate circuits, just didn't want you to grab the wrong two wires and deep fry the neighborhood by having 4 times more power then you thought and the oil reached its flash point (about 600F).

As an example lets say you have two outlets in your kitchen and for load balancing or luck of the draw they were placed across from each other in the breaker box, if you were to take one probe from your voltmeter and put it in the microwaves outlet short slot and the other probe in your refrigerators outlet short slot you would read 240 volts rather than 120 volt (assuming your outlets are polarize correctly).

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Old 01-06-2009, 12:14 AM   #17
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How do you pay the road tax on this?

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Road tax has been a sore subject with these people, a few states have finally exempted them, I have only looked at California laws and it says you need to pay 18 cent a gallon road tax plus you need a $300 permit to haul it along with a one million dollar insurance bond in case of a spill.

Not to minimize the need for road repair but is going tooth and nail after the 1/10th of the 1% of the people who are trying to get away from billion dollar oil companies and opec the right solution? There are far more people driving hybrids that get 60+ miles to the gallon in the city that produces "free" fuel just by stopping - next there will be a regenerative breaking excise tax.

I imagine that once it becomes widely used a new way to get the monies for road use have to be addressed, the government is already looking at having mandatory GPS systems installed in all cars so they can determine how many miles you drive and where so they can charge you accordingly. Then as an added bonus they can also monitor your speed and email you tickets too.

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Old 01-06-2009, 12:23 AM   #18
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I imagine that once it becomes widely used a new way to get the monies for road use have to be addressed, the government is already looking at having mandatory GPS systems installed in all cars so they can determine how many miles you drive and where so they can charge you accordingly. Then as an added bonus they can also monitor your speed and email you tickets too.
Yep. How long before your driving pattern is monitored, and the first time you deviate, will they send some over to "check up on you"? Then there was the idea of a remote shut-off that disabled your vehicle's electrical system when a law enforcement officer enters a code based on your tag number.

Sorry for the OT.
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Old 01-06-2009, 11:35 AM   #19
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That would never happen.

If this ever became popular, the market value of used/new vegetable oil would go far higher than road diesel at the pump costs. So it solves itself.

It's just like natural gas. Nat gas was a free waste product from refining... they started capturing it and using it and now it's one of the more expensive fuels.

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