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Old 04-20-2013, 09:29 PM   #61
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I still don't see the point.


Plastic burns...so what?...you're whole house will burn if it's lit up.

And as far as "no grounding ability", you pull a seperate ground anyway right ...so what's the difference.
You asked why not to use PVC, I stated my opinons and one fact (plastic burns, gets brittle) on why *I* would not use PVC conduit.

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Matches next to a gasoline can is a silly comparison, so I won't even comment on that one.
I would not put plastic around something that has the potential to get hot enough to set it on fire if something fails, that was why I used the analogy of gasoline and matches, sorry but that was the best analogy I could come up with in 3 seconds on the fly to make a point.


Right, I would always use a separate ground wire, but others DON'T with metal EMT, and if you use PVC you have to use a separate ground wire anyway, the cost of that one more wire etc probably cancels out any savings in cost of PVC v/s $1.49/10' 1/2" ($3.00/3/4" $5.49/1") EMT conduit.

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Old 04-20-2013, 09:34 PM   #62
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Georgia Institute of Technology did these tests I believe.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:09 AM   #63
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I am creating a mother inlaw. 50 ft run in 1" plastic conduit. stove and microwave. stove on 50 amp breaker microwave on 20 amp breaker. stove hase 4-8 gauge wires 2 hot/1 neuteral/1ground. microwave using 12 gauge. Question is....can I use the 8 gauge neuteral and ground form the stove to share with the microwave?
I was kind of curious about this scenario also. So can he use the 8 AWG neutral and ground from the 50A stove breaker for his 20A microwave circuit? Im assuming that the run from the panel is going to a junc box then splitting off.
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No, you cannot do that.
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Thanks. So in that case a separate #12 neutral would have to be pulled?
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You take an old thread and tell everyone they were rude and then ask for help on your project. Now that's not only rude but stupid. And you can't fix stupid.

Wire it with lamp cord, it will be fine.


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And a thank you to you my friend for giving me a straight answer without the drama.
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And a thank you to you my friend for giving me a straight answer without the drama.
I thought you had a good question just a bad way of asking it.
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I thought you had a good question just a bad way of asking it.

Just a bad attitude i guess when people call other people "stupid" I would love to chalange witts with them. I just thought it was a legit opening question for this post and the first comment was a little insulting. I am a contractor myself for many years and I still have alot to learn. There is a right and wrong way to do things, but, there are alot of right ways to do things, not just one. People have the right to there opinion just dont insult others in the process.
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Just a bad attitude i guess when people call other people "stupid" I would love to chalange witts with them. I just thought it was a legit opening question for this post and the first comment was a little insulting. I am a contractor myself for many years and I still have alot to learn. There is a right and wrong way to do things, but, there are alot of right ways to do things, not just one. People have the right to there opinion just dont insult others in the process.

And you really think you did not insult everyone else with you first post? And before you challenge anyone, learn how to spell (or use a spell checker).
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Just a bad attitude i guess when people call other people "stupid" I would love to chalange witts with them. I just thought it was a legit opening question for this post and the first comment was a little insulting.
Are you looking at the same thread as I am???
The OP, while being highly experienced to the point that he has "been doing my own electrical wiring for over 10 years" and "For 20 years {has} read books and watched DIY shows", really had VERY little clue what he was doing, at least to the point of doing things correctly and safely.
NO ONE called him stupid. We just questioned his level of expertise and over-confidence.

YOU were the one to come on two years later and open this back up into a contentious thread. Things were fine until you did this.
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Ok, lets see if i can gets a POLITE answer about my question. I am creating a mother inlaw. 50 ft run in 1" plastic conduit. stove and microwave. stove on 50 amp breaker microwave on 20 amp breaker. stove hase 4-8 gauge wires 2 hot/1 neuteral/1ground. microwave using 12 gauge. Question is....can I use the 8 gauge neuteral and ground form the stove to share with the microwave? Now that is as plain and simple of a question as i can possible make it. Thanks and please dont be rude....
NO. You absolutely CANNOT do this. The neutral is already shared by the two hots of the stove.

How's that?
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And you really think you did not insult everyone else with you first post? And before you challenge anyone, learn how to spell (or use a spell checker).

Thanks for correcting me. Always did suck at spelling.
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Are you looking at the same thread as I am???
The OP, while being highly experienced to the point that he has "been doing my own electrical wiring for over 10 years" and "For 20 years {has} read books and watched DIY shows", really had VERY little clue what he was doing, at least to the point of doing things correctly and safely.
NO ONE called him stupid. We just questioned his level of expertise and over-confidence.

YOU were the one to come on two years later and open this back up into a contentious thread. Things were fine until you did this.

Maybe not stupid but this is a "do it yourself" site. Not a "come to the site and have someone else tell you to NOT do it yourself". Just saying if I was the original poster i would have gotten frustrated about that comment.

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