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Old 02-12-2013, 07:02 AM   #1
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I am upgrading my service and have to relocate my panel becuase it is in a corner of wall at the basement steps. i read that you need 3 feet of clearence on each side and front is that true?
Im in new jersey with pse&g do i have to notify them?
Is a permit needed?
Can i use old panel as junction box to extend circuits?
Can the panel stay at bottom of steps?
How far from meter before i need a disconnect?
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Yes you need to notify PSE&G and yes you need to get permits. They will not do a service upgrade without a permit and they won't upgrade any connections until it has passed final inspection. I would use a licensed pro for this and not try to DIY a panel upgrade based on your questions.

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I would use a licensed pro for this and not try to DIY a panel upgrade
*based on your questions*
Even without having all those questions...
there is a LOT of rather specific work all to be done (and coordinated with the power company and the inspector) that very few situations will allow one person to get done by themselves in the course of the one day that most situations NEED it to be completed in.
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I am upgrading my service and have to relocate my panel becuase it is in a corner of wall at the basement steps. i read that you need 3 feet of clearence on each side and front is that true?
Im in new jersey with pse&g do i have to notify them?
Is a permit needed? Absolutely! Follow this link for downloadable forms.
Can i use old panel as junction box to extend circuits? Yes. More information can be found here in post #6.
Can the panel stay at bottom of steps? New panel or old panel? The new panel falls under the ReHab Subcode found here and can remain in the existing location.
How far from meter before i need a disconnect? The NEC states "as near as possible to the point of entrance". There is no specific distance in the NEC. Follow this link for PSE&G requirements.
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Check out this thread I started for DIY electrical work in New Jersey.
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I would see if they can have an engineer come out to meet with you to talk about placement and height of new service or requirements for underground if that is how it has to be done.

Then I would find a meter main that they approve of get install service cable meter main ground rods water bonding per NEC or local amendments and install a sub panel with main inside wherever works best and meets codes you can put it just about anywhere because of the OCPD in the meter main.

Once that passes I would find out if you can feed the old panel with your new panel or use it as a junction box worst case you may have to remove the old panel and use junction boxes.

When I do service upgrades I like the meter mains then I can go anywhere I want inside to feed a new or existing panel as long as it meets the inspectors approval. Here they allow me to get the new service inspected and connected with the meter main and all I have to do is call them back to inspect how I do the work inside. And customers are without power for a very short time. Once they cut the old service and connect the new service all they have to do is wait for me to run a feed from the meter main to a new or existing panel.

I did one they disconnected the old service and while they were connecting the new one I already had conduit and wire going from the meter main to the old panel and just had to disconnect the old service wire in the panel and connect it to the meter main feed a break the neutral ground bond flip a breaker in the meter main and they had power in about 20 min. Inspector comes back and gives the final approval.

Customers love it that they are not waiting around for an inspector and POCO reconnect sometimes not till late at night.
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So he can leave it in that corner of the basement of the steps?
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So he can leave it in that corner of the basement of the steps?
Under the New Jersey REHab Subcode, without knowing the specifics I believe he can. Pics would help.

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Under the New Jersey REHab Subcode, without knowing the specifics I believe he can. Pics would help.

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