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Old 07-14-2008, 11:45 PM   #1
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I have a black, white and ground (2-wire) acting as a feed to the double gang switch box area.

I have a black, red, white, ground (3-wire) leading to the ceiling fan connection box from this double gang switch box area as aforementioned.

I need to wire one (1) single pole switch to contol the ceiling fan light only and one (1) single pole switch to control the fan only from this double gang switch box area.

How do I wire both of these two (2) separate single pole switches given the condtions?

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Old 07-15-2008, 02:24 AM   #3
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I have a black, white and ground (2-wire) acting as a feed to the double gang switch box area.

I have a black, red, white, ground (3-wire) leading to the ceiling fan connection box from this double gang switch box area as aforementioned.

I need to wire one (1) single pole switch to contol the ceiling fan light only and one (1) single pole switch to control the fan only from this double gang switch box area.

How do I wire both of these two (2) separate single pole switches given the condtions?
Ground to ground with pigtail to the switches,
white to white only (neutral)
Black is the hot lead for the switches, Red and Black are switch legs to the
blue wire (lght kit) and black wire (fan) respectively.
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:19 AM   #4
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As per longtooths description... to add.... ground pigtail to box if metal. Wire does not have to be 12 awg as shown can be 14 awg.
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Thanks for your help.

The diagram was great.

The diagram shows the black (hot) wire split into two (2) -- with one black (hot) pigtail going to the bottom of one (1) single-pole switch and the other black (hot) pigtail going to the other single-pole switch.

Does the black (hot) wire have to be installed on the bottom screw of the single-pole switch -- or can it be installed on the top screw -- or -- it doesn't matter what scew it's attached to?
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Top or bottom doesn't matter. One can be top and the other bottom if you wish.
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Stubbie mentioned to ground to the box if the box is metal. I'll add that if the box is plastic, you must pigtail from the ground to the green screw on each switch. If your switches don't have a green screw, they're the wrong switch for a plastic box application.
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I have the same setting but the power source comes into the fixture box. How should this be wired
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I have the same setting but the power source comes into the fixture box. How should this be wired

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Thanks Speedy Petey. From the fixture box I have 2 - 14/2 wires going to the switch box. Does this create a problem or is there a way to make this work?
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With two 14-2 wires both going from switch box to fixture box (instead of one 14-3) you connect the hot feed up at the fixture box to both white wires going down to the switch box. One black wire from the switch box connects to the fan hot lead and the other black wire from the switch box connects to the light hot lead (role of the red wire in the diagram above). Down at the switch box connect the two wires from the same cable to the same switch.
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AllanJ, can you re-explain what you just said to philyj? I have the exact same set up but can't follow your directions. I need you to explain each set up carefully to make sure I follow you. Dave
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I have the exact same set up but can't follow your directions.
With the second set of wires going to the fixture, (a HIGHLY) unusual arrangement btw, you use that BLACK wire as though it were the RED wire in the 3 wire set as is normally done.
The additional white & ground) get tied in with the other white & ground wires.

Feed Black ---> Light Switch ---> Light
|---------------> Fan Switch -----> Fan

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I'll hook up the spare white and ground. When you say HIGHLY unusual do you mean dangerous? It seems the previous homeowners had extra 14/2 and used it. Dave
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AllanJ, can you re-explain what you just said to philyj? I have the exact same set up but can't follow your directions. I need you to explain each set up carefully to make sure I follow you. Dave
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I didn't understand the connecting the hot wire to the 2 white wires but I'm not an electrician. What you can do with 2 (14-2) is:

At the double switch box, with power coming in, tie the hot wire with 2 pigtails each going to a switch. The 2 black wires leaving the switch box (two seperate 14-2), going to the fixture get connected to each switch. Tie all the neutrals together and the grounds together @ the switch box.

At the fixture 1 black gets tied to the blue and the other to the black for the fixture. Tie neutrals together, tie grounds together.

Kind of stupid way to do it though.

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