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Old 06-25-2012, 05:40 AM   #16
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Here k_buz, since you seem to think that it is FUD:

http://www.ezdiyelectricity.com/?p=95 I will give you a clue. 210.52(A)
Did you actually read the article?

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Since the maximum distance to a receptacle is 6 feet (1.8 meters), the maximum distance between two receptacles is doubled. Therefore, the maximum distance between receptacles is 12 feet (3.6 meters).

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Yeah, that's the old one I posted as well.. I could have swore I read some where that they did change it to every 6' in the 2011 update.. I couldn't find it though.. And I'm not paying to download it. I gave up looking. So I guess it's still the same..
It is the same that is in the 2011. I did not feel like doing a copy & paste from the 2011 NEC, so I figured that K_Buz should do the work and either look it up if they do not have a copy, or pull out their copy.

I do like how he is doubting something that has been around for a while, and is even in the IRC. Also, you tend to use more common sense when doing stuff like hooking up electronic or electrical components. Especially when there has been multiple instances of extension cords wearing out and causing a fire.
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And I suppose you install counter top receptacles every 2' as well.



Can you tell me where it says that outlets have to be spaced 6' apart?
May want to go back and read it. It states that you have to be able to have a reach of no less than 6 feet in a residential, unlike a commercial application, that those rules do not apply. It is a common sense rule that was done, so that people would stop running extension cords under rugs, or along traffic areas, due to too many fires were caused by cheap extension cords would short out and cause fires.

And again for Kitchen counters, it goes into the common sense rule. Due to too many appliances have been pulled off of counter tops, etc.
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It is the same that is in the 2011. I did not feel like doing a copy & paste from the 2011 NEC, so I figured that K_Buz should do the work and either look it up if they do not have a copy, or pull out their copy.

I do like how he is doubting something that has been around for a while, and is even in the IRC. Also, you tend to use more common sense when doing stuff like hooking up electronic or electrical components. Especially when there has been multiple instances of extension cords wearing out and causing a fire.
You are a bonehead.
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The reach can be 6 foot to the left and the right. This gives you the 12' max between receptacles.
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6 feet from any imaginary point on the wall. So they can be 12 feet apart. Any wall over two feet needs one. Hallways over 10ft. There's a few more specifics.
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If you mount a tv, on a stand, in the middle of 2 receptacles 12' apart, chances are the cord will not reach.
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It is the same that is in the 2011. I did not feel like doing a copy & paste from the 2011 NEC, so I figured that K_Buz should do the work and either look it up if they do not have a copy, or pull out their copy.

I do like how he is doubting something that has been around for a while, and is even in the IRC. Also, you tend to use more common sense when doing stuff like hooking up electronic or electrical components. Especially when there has been multiple instances of extension cords wearing out and causing a fire.
What the hell are you talking about? I'm beginning to think you are making crap up to either...

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If you mount a tv, on a stand, in the middle of 2 receptacles 12' apart, chances are the cord will not reach.
And most people are going to use a surge protector with a 6 foot cord, so it becomes null.
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What the hell are you talking about? I'm beginning to think you are making crap up to either...

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Nah, that would be you and another. I interpreted the code exactly as it states. Same as what Jim & Mike stated, which is what the NEC states.
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If you mount a tv, on a stand, in the middle of 2 receptacles 12' apart, chances are the cord will not reach.
And that's why I thought I read they changed the code in 2011. I never did find it though.. I hate being wrong..
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And that's why I thought I read they changed the code in 2011. I never did find it though.. I hate being wrong..
They cleaned up the verbage on a lot of the code cites in the 2011, due to too much redundancy, some parts were needing a little more clarification, due to too much lawyer speak.
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Greg, what exactly IS your stance.

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Agreed. Pretty sure the code stating an outlet every 6' are to prevent people from running 15' extension cords to their tv's.
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There is no such code requiring an outlet every 6 feet.
You implied that my stance on what Copper stated was incorrect...(what does FUD stand for?)

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Here k_buz, since you seem to think that it is FUD:

http://www.ezdiyelectricity.com/?p=95 I will give you a clue. 210.52(A)
Now, what are you saying? Did I give the wrong information when I stated "There is no such code requiring an outlet every 6 feet."?
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NEC2011(updated) Article 210.68(C) 1.Thou shall not place any receptacle more then 72'' from any clock, clock radio, or coat hanger. Any wall 2' or smaller shall be ripped out and designed more adequately. 2. Thou shall not run any extension cord greater then 72'' to your television. (exception: if you hide a tv in the attic to get away from the wife.)
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K_buz, me thinks that you are reading more into what I stated. All I did was clean up the verbage, basically stated the same that the nec stayes, but in my own words.

six feet from object to outlet is still six feet. And why they did that, was as I stayed before, to stop people from running extension cords across rooms, under rugs, and such.

Of course, there are those like you, that want to argue about nothing. As far as this thread is concerned, if you want to take everything out of context that anyone that someone says, that you do not agree with what they stated, more power to you.

As far as what I stated, just said that the context of where outlets can be placed under the 2011 is in 210.52. But of course no matter what, you will think that I just pulled it out of my rear, which i didn't.

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