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08-20-2011, 10:59 PM
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"Rigid" electrical conduit
Hi,
New guy to the board here. I am in a quandary.
Can G.I. pipe fittings be used in "rigid" conduit applications in Chicago? I am re-directing a service to a main box and I cannot find "rigid" style conduit nipples in the sizes I need but I can get them in galvanized iron.
I am speaking specifically about 1 1/4" nipples. I have access to a Rigid
pipe threading machine, but it doesn't have a nipple chuck. I suppose I could rig up one and make my own nipples but that means buying a 10' length of pipe for less than 2 ft combined total inches of nipples.
Can someone help me with this quandary?
TIA
Karl Andrews
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08-21-2011, 09:31 AM
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Electrical Contractor
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"Rigid" electrical conduit
No, galvanixed pipe can not be used.
Most hardware store will cut and thread the nipples for you.
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08-21-2011, 09:36 AM
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Is the 'no' a Chicago rule or another rule?
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08-21-2011, 09:40 AM
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"Rigid" electrical conduit
There must be an electrical supply house around --
Where are you located?
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08-21-2011, 09:43 AM
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"Rigid" electrical conduit
Plumbing pipe is not the same as rigid conduit. The inside can have rough edges that will nick the wire. Go to a supply house, they will have what you need.
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08-21-2011, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Code05
Plumbing pipe is not the same as rigid conduit. The inside can have rough edges that will nick the wire. Go to a supply house, they will have what you need.
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It might not be best practice, but is it forbidden?
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08-21-2011, 09:51 AM
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Licensed electrician
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"Rigid" electrical conduit
The NEC requires things to be used for their purpose. Plumbing pipe is not listed for electrical usage.
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08-21-2011, 09:52 AM
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I believe the threads on rigid conduit are straight and plumbing pipe has tapered---so yes it is prohibited.
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08-21-2011, 10:02 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oh'mike
I believe the threads on rigid conduit are straight and plumbing pipe has tapered---so yes it is prohibited.
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Rigid is tapered.
344.28 Reaming and Threading. All cut ends shall be
reamed or otherwise finished to remove rough edges. Where
conduit is threaded in the field, a standard cutting die with a
1 in 16 taper (3⁄4 in. taper per foot) shall be used.
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08-21-2011, 10:22 AM
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Good to know----I'm not an electrician although I worked for one some years back-----
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08-21-2011, 11:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oh'mike
I believe the threads on rigid conduit are straight and plumbing pipe has tapered---so yes it is prohibited.
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The pipe fittings I have fit perfectly, so I'm not worried about the threads.
I'll check around, we don't have a lot of electical supply houses in my 'hood, and the "big box" stores dont carry a lot of larger size fittings although I know where a couple are.
Thanks for the help.
KA
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08-21-2011, 11:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbfan
No, galvanixed pipe can not be used.
Most hardware store will cut and thread the nipples for you.
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The hardware store I work p/t at doesn't carry 1 1/4 fittings, nor do we carry that size "rigid". Most hardware stores don't carry larger sizes. We dont even carry 1 1/4 in the catalog. I'll try to find the size nipples I need and if push comes to shove I can buy a piece of rigid , cut and thread it myself. I can jerry-rig a threading jig for the shorter pieces.
KA
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08-21-2011, 12:42 PM
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Just call me Andrew
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08-21-2011, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Port
The NEC requires things to be used for their purpose. Plumbing pipe is not listed for electrical usage.
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What is plumbing pipe, by definition?
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08-21-2011, 03:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlmran
What is plumbing pipe, by definition?
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It ain't Rigid Metal Conduit and it ain't listed as such.
344.6 Listing Requirements. RMC, factory elbows and
couplings, and associated fittings shall be listed.
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