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Kapriel 08-12-2012 10:34 AM

RG 6/U or something else ?
 
Hello, I'm roughing in 5 rooms and it's time to do the cable boxes. I was thinking of using RG 6/U in each room with home runs for every room.
I'm not sure really what to use.

This is rental property, and some tenants use Satelite, some use "Charter"
and all use High Speed Internet.
I'm thinking of also installing Cat 5E or 6 in same box.

I only want to do this once since I can't pull it out once installed.
Not sure about telephone, probably cable, but I might run some 22/4
in same box just in case. Hopefully crosstalk will not be an issue.

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

curiousB 08-12-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapriel (Post 986706)
Hello, I'm roughing in 5 rooms and it's time to do the cable boxes. I was thinking of using RG 6/U in each room with home runs for every room.
I'm not sure really what to use.

This is rental property, and some tenants use Satelite, some use "Charter"
and all use High Speed Internet.
I'm thinking of also installing Cat 5E or 6 in same box.

I only want to do this once since I can't pull it out once installed.
Not sure about telephone, probably cable, but I might run some 22/4
in same box just in case. Hopefully crosstalk will not be an issue.

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Best to use rg6/u quad shield. Only slightly more expensive and best noise immunity. Run that and a cat5e and you're being very accommodating. Home run a good idea as well.

OKDrew63 08-13-2012 09:32 AM

I ran coax and Cat5 home runs to all rooms in my house several years ago, we have DTV and quad shield is recommended for sat, so that's what I went with.

Maybe go with Cat6 for future proofing although I'm not sure what Cat6 gets you over Cat5.

If allowable to post, a good online resource for cables, connector plates and everything wiring is monoprice.

5th_Time 08-13-2012 10:05 AM

Agree with others on RG6. Most everyone now days use cable and then a wireless router for everything. Bring a laptop near an apartment complex and you will have a whole page of wireless networks being displayed.

Occasionally, people will still want U-Verse, which is DSL, and then to a wireless router - so provide at least (1) CAT#5 or 5e run to their panel. Cat#6 not needed - used mostly for networks running 1000BASE-T segments & devices.

With wireless phones and wirless internet devices lately, most of the CAT#x runs are just sitting there unused.

ddawg16 08-13-2012 10:31 AM

RG6 replaces the RG58 that 'used' to be the standard for video......if you want some boring reading, do a search on RG6 vs RG58....

I would go at least Cat5e....Cat6 has a bit better shielding and is rated for longer distances....but for the average homeowner, it won't make any difference....your provider is not going to get anywhere close to the potential speed of the Cat5 or 6.

One little note on your coax....make sure you use a splitter rated for 1Ghz or faster. If you use a cable modem, the internet stuff is up towards the top of the spectrum. If you use a lower freq splitter or a cheap one....it will chop off that info.

Also, be ware that a splitter will reduce the signal. Each port on a spliter will reduce the signal by 3db....3db is 1/2 the power. So, if you have a splitter with 5 outputs....the signal strength will be pretty low.....this will become an issue if your splitting off the antenna and going to individual boxes....

Kapriel 08-13-2012 10:43 AM

RG/6 U with quad shield is what is recommened but I've heard the bending radius is hard to get it into the duplex boxes, so I'm thinking tri-shield ?

Thanks 5th time. I agree most everything is wireless and the need to wire every room is questionable. I have no idea who is going to use what in what rooms.

Thanks, Dawg for splitter info I was going to put two cable boxes in each room and do a home run from 10 boxes to outside of the house it's a lot of cable, and most won't be used but at least internet, cable, phone would be accessable without need for alot of pig tail extensions.

Total load probably 2-3 HD TV's and 2 computers, 2 phones. Total of each home run less than 50 feet.

One other thought, Am I completely going overboard here ?

Doorman54 08-13-2012 10:43 AM

My current provider has switched to all Cat5 from the router to cable box/PC.
No more coax for me!!!

ddawg16 08-13-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Doorman54 (Post 987384)
My current provider has switched to all Cat5 from the router to cable box/PC.
No more coax for me!!!

You bring up a good point....Cat5 and Cat 6 work fine for baseband video....

Notice....'from' your cable box to the TV's/Computers....

But not 'to' your cable box...that is still coax....Cat 6 would have trouble with that signal for any distance....

Ethernet cable has sure come a long way.....but I think we are getting to the physical upper limit on freq. Above 1Ghz, lots of things change....

zappa 08-13-2012 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddawg16 (Post 987370)
RG6 replaces the RG59 that 'used' to be the standard for video......if you want some boring reading, do a search on RG6 vs RG59....

Fixed it for ya.

ddawg16 08-13-2012 10:55 AM

58...59...what ever it takes........

58 was the 50ohm stuff....thanks for the correction...

Doorman54 08-13-2012 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddawg16

You bring up a good point....Cat5 and Cat 6 work fine for baseband video....

Notice....'from' your cable box to the TV's/Computers....

But not 'to' your cable box...that is still coax....Cat 6 would have trouble with that signal for any distance....

Ethernet cable has sure come a long way.....but I think we are getting to the physical upper limit on freq. Above 1Ghz, lots of things change....

Hmmmmmm.......
My Uverse router (all tv, phone and Internet), Cat5 from that to all cable boxes (including DVR), HDMI from cable box to TV.

zappa 08-13-2012 11:14 AM

220/221 :laughing: :thumbsup:

J. V. 08-13-2012 11:46 AM

RG6 or any other similar cable is obsolete it seems. I have had to buy a modulator for every single room that was cable ready and had no receiver in it.. When is the last time you have seen a cable output for TV, Satelight, DVD? You don't. All the inputs are HDMI or AV and the outputs are all AV -red-white-yellow. No more cable out. Only cable in.
Why is there no HDMI outputs?

Jim Port 08-13-2012 12:03 PM

Do not use boxes with the LV cables and you avoid most of the bend radius issues. Just use LV trim rings.

Kapriel 08-13-2012 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Port (Post 987478)
Do not use boxes with the LV cables and you avoid most of the bend radius issues. Just use LV trim rings.

Jim, I'm using blue Carlon boxes thru-out and was going to use them also for all Low Voltage Cat-5e-6 and RG 6/U. All LV separate from 120-240V circuits.

My thinking was it should be in a box and if not used just put a blank cover over it. Are you saying just leave the cables on the studs with about a foot or so extending from the sheetrock into room ?


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