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Old 06-08-2014, 06:28 PM   #1
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My wife informed me that when she was unplugging dehumidifier from outlet it cracked. So I said Ill replace it when I get a chance. I did so now the switch on the wall that turns on both lamps to the outlets does not turn them on and off. What did I do incorrectly? There six total wires to this outlet. 2 black 1 red 1 ground and two white. I even wrote it down but maybe put wrong wire in somewhere. all outlets in house are hung upside down with ground facing up. That being said as I unwired it the ground on top with green screw the 2 whites were plugged into the back right side the red plugged into the top back left one black into bottom left and other black onto screw outside bottom left. Now the bottom outlet runs power all the time and the top runs power when you turn on the switch on wall. where did I make a wrong turn because it wont turn on from wall but I can plug it into either outlet and light will come on doesn't matter which way the switch is off or on.

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My wife informed me that when she was unplugging dehumidifier from outlet it cracked. So I said Ill replace it when I get a chance. I did so now the switch on the wall that turns on both lamps to the outlets does not turn them on and off. What did I do incorrectly? There six total wires to this outlet. 2 black 1 red 1 ground and two white. I even wrote it down but maybe put wrong wire in somewhere. all outlets in house are hung upside down with ground facing up. That being said as I unwired it the ground on top with green screw the 2 whites were plugged into the back right side the red plugged into the top back left one black into bottom left and other black onto screw outside bottom left. Now the bottom outlet runs power all the time and the top runs power when you turn on the switch on wall. where did I make a wrong turn because it wont turn on from wall but I can plug it into either outlet and light will come on doesn't matter which way the switch is off or on.
With the exception of your bolded statement above, I think you forgot to break the tab between the hot sides of the receptical.....

But your statements are confusing above as to what was occuring before (objective) and what is occuring now.

Are you aware of the tab that creates a split receptical.... you just bend it back and forth with needle nose pliers.

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I agree that you forgot to break the tab on the brass side. It is jumpering power around the switch.
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I agree that you forgot to break the tab on the brass side. It is jumpering power around the switch.
Except for the OPs statement "and the top runs power when you turn on the switch on wall"

(Jim.... I guess when everything does not make sense, it concerns me some with electrical. The OP probably did not report (confused) that the top runs power in either switch position)

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Except for the OPs statement "and the top runs power when you turn on the switch on wall"

(Jim.... I guess when everything does not make sense, it concerns me some with electrical. The OP probably did not report (confused) that the top runs power in either switch position)

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I think he means when everything works right.
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OK great thanks for the input! Ill do that next and let you know how everything turns out. Thanks again. I only have to break it on the brass side? And its the small 1/8" flange in between the two screws? Sounds familiar.
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OK great thanks for the input! Ill do that next and let you know how everything turns out. Thanks again. I only have to break it on the brass side? And its the small 1/8" flange in between the two screws? Sounds familiar.
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..... all outlets in house are hung upside down with ground ........
In the 1980's when this style receptacle was introduced the recommended orientation was for the ground pin UP.
There is no code requirement as to the ground pin orientation, Right, Left, UP or Down.
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In the 1980's when this style receptacle was introduced the recommended orientation was for the ground pin UP.
There is no code requirement as to the ground pin orientation, Right, Left, UP or Down.
I was told that you should hang them ground up so if the metal plate falls off and something is plugged into the outlet it will be grounded. Makes sense.
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I don't much care if the ground pin is left or right on a horizontal mount. My OCD will not tolerate a ground pin up. Things like this make me homicidal.
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I don't much care if the ground pin is left or right on a horizontal mount. My OCD will not tolerate a ground pin up. Things like this make me homicidal.

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In the 1980's when this style receptacle was introduced the recommended orientation was for the ground pin UP.
There is no code requirement as to the ground pin orientation, Right, Left, UP or Down.
You mean the 1950's
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I don't much care if the ground pin is left or right on a horizontal mount. My OCD will not tolerate a ground pin up. Things like this make me homicidal.
I agree, lol. They don't look like a face with the ground up. :0

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I was told that you should hang them ground up so if the metal plate falls off and something is plugged into the outlet it will be grounded. Makes sense.
Yes, because that obscure scenario happens daily...
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What are metal plates??

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