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red86yota 12-08-2008 08:02 AM

replacing old wire on existing circuits...
 
Hi,

My house was built in the 20's and believe it or not, some of the wiring in the house looks to be of the same era. However, all of the receps and fixtures are updated. I'm doing a remodel/addition on the house which will require additional circuits and inspections, but my question is in regards to existing circuits in the house where I have replaced the old wiring with new wiring. There are date codes on the wiring, so it will be obvious that the wiring has been updated within the year. Will the inspector want to inspect the existing circuits where I've replaced the wiring?

Also, if I upgrade the wiring, does that mean I have to upgrade to the AFCI breakers for kitchen/bed circuits? This could be an issue as I'm using some tandem breakers now and have just enough room for the new circuits on AFCI's that I'll need for the addition.

Thanks!

joed 12-08-2008 10:17 AM

Inspector will want to see anything you have modified.
Anything you modifiy will need to meet current codes.

rgsgww 12-08-2008 11:35 AM

Yep, afcis and all of that.

You might want a service upgrade, or if your good with what you have, put a sub in right next to your main.

jamiedolan 12-08-2008 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red86yota (Post 195428)
Hi,

My house was built in the 20's and believe it or not, some of the wiring in the house looks to be of the same era. However, all of the receps and fixtures are updated. I'm doing a remodel/addition on the house which will require additional circuits and inspections, but my question is in regards to existing circuits in the house where I have replaced the old wiring with new wiring. There are date codes on the wiring, so it will be obvious that the wiring has been updated within the year. Will the inspector want to inspect the existing circuits where I've replaced the wiring?

Also, if I upgrade the wiring, does that mean I have to upgrade to the AFCI breakers for kitchen/bed circuits? This could be an issue as I'm using some tandem breakers now and have just enough room for the new circuits on AFCI's that I'll need for the addition.

Thanks!

Kitchen / bath need GFCI protection, AFCI for bedrooms, possibly other areas depending on your code cycle.

Jamie

red86yota 12-08-2008 12:45 PM

If I upgrade to 200A service (and panel with enough spaces needed), do I have to upgrade all my CB's to have AFCI / GFCI where required per the new code?

thanks

jamiedolan 12-08-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red86yota (Post 195574)
If I upgrade to 200A service (and panel with enough spaces needed), do I have to upgrade all my CB's to have AFCI / GFCI where required per the new code?

thanks

Depends on your inspector, but most don't require it if the branch circuit is not modified. Call your local office to find out for sure.
jamie

Gigs 12-08-2008 05:36 PM

I think AFCI is only for new construction, right?

jamiedolan 12-08-2008 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigs (Post 195716)
I think AFCI is only for new construction, right?

If the code cycle your on requires AFCI on a branch circuit and you modify a branch circuit that now requires AFCI/GFCI then you would normally be required to bring the branch circuit up to current code.

Jamie

Gigs 12-08-2008 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamiedolan (Post 195719)
If the code cycle your on requires AFCI on a branch circuit and you modify a branch circuit that now requires AFCI/GFCI then you would normally be required to bring the branch circuit up to current code

He better ask his inspector, because around here they are only required for new construction.

jamiedolan 12-08-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigs (Post 195724)
He better ask his inspector, because around here they are only required for new construction.

If you rewire a bed room you don't need a AFCI, even if your code cycle requires it?, that seems contray to what I understand.

I don't know of any new construction only clause to the nec. I think it is always the same rule, old work is grandfathered in, and new work or modifying existing work needs to be brought up to current code.

KC?


Jamie


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