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mediaseth 04-14-2013 07:58 PM

Replaced duplex outlet with USB/single now other outlets don't work
 
I just replaced a duplex outlet with a combo usb charging/single outlet I got at a reputable hardware store.

The duplex outlet had two white wires, two black wires, and a ground.

I used screw caps and electrical tape to secure the extra black and white wires because the new usb/outlet only had terminals for one of each.

I put it back in nicely and it works.

Then I tried to use another outlet in the room. Two duplex outlets in the room that worked previously seem to have lost juice.

What do I do with the extra wires, now? I don't have room in the box for so many more screw caps :( But if I did, how would I connect them so the other outlets would still work?

Please avoid lingo, and thanks!

k_buz 04-14-2013 08:00 PM

Why would you think that you could just cap wires you deemed unneeded and everything else will work just fine? Do you think the electrician that wired your house like running extra wires that were not needed?

You need to turn off power to that receptacle, pull it out, and pig-tail the wires to the receptacle.

stickboy1375 04-14-2013 08:02 PM

Still cracks me up how people change the splice and then wonder why something doesn't work... :whistling2:

mediaseth 04-14-2013 08:04 PM

Thanks for the quick reply. How do I pigtail them? I don't have extra wire, so I'm assuming I do this:

1. I get some extra wire and cut short lengths.
2. I connect the two black and an extra short length of black in a cap, and then to the outlet / repeat with white
3. done

I'll have to do it tomorrow, or run out and also buy a flashlight (I wish I was kidding).

mpoulton 04-15-2013 12:30 AM

Most receptacles have provisions for daisy chaining devices. Are you sure there's no way to connect a second set of wires to the device?

mediaseth 04-15-2013 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpoulton (Post 1159515)
Most receptacles have provisions for daisy chaining devices. Are you sure there's no way to connect a second set of wires to the device?

I'm absolutely sure. I was surprised not to find any, but they just weren't there. Everything I read on installing this usb/power receptacle combos made it seem easy. No review or article mentioned this issue.

k_buz 04-15-2013 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpoulton (Post 1159515)
Most receptacles have provisions for daisy chaining devices. Are you sure there's no way to connect a second set of wires to the device?

Not on those USB charging combo devices.

kbsparky 04-15-2013 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mpoulton (Post 1159515)
Most receptacles have provisions for daisy chaining devices. Are you sure there's no way to connect a second set of wires to the device?

A USB combo device is NOT "most receptacles." They only have one terminal for each circuit conductor.

Pigtailing is necessary when using such a device.

rrolleston 04-15-2013 01:05 AM

The ones I got from pass and seymour have a screw with a plate and you can put two wires under it. Just like a GFCI.

OCPik4chu 04-15-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mediaseth (Post 1159344)
Thanks for the quick reply. How do I pigtail them? I don't have extra wire, so I'm assuming I do this:

1. I get some extra wire and cut short lengths.
2. I connect the two black and an extra short length of black in a cap, and then to the outlet / repeat with white
3. done

I'll have to do it tomorrow, or run out and also buy a flashlight (I wish I was kidding).

That is correct.


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