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Old 07-04-2010, 10:44 PM   #1
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how do I get this setup working? I've tried everything I can think of but it keeps failing.

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Did your old ceiling fan have lights? If so, were they both turned on/off buy a single wall switch or with two switches?

What color wires do you see in the ceiling?

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yes, the old ceiling fan had lights. Two separate wall switches - 1. standard switch for fan 2. dimmer switch for light.

wires in the ceiling were: black, white, red, ground (copper)
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A typical setup would be black to black, red to blue or black with white stripe, white to white and all grounds together.

Have you verified power to the switches?
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.... wires in the ceiling were: black, white, red, ground (copper)
Which wires did you connect to the light?
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Yes, verified power to the switches. At the fixture, I connected black to black, white to white, ground to ground. I capped off red since it was originally for the ceiling fan motor. At the wall switch, three sets of wires coming in, 1. from the circuit box: black, white & ground 2. from the light fixture: black, white, red & ground 3. from a wall AC plug: black, white & ground. At the wall switch, I twisted/connected & capped all the blacks, twisted/connected capped all the whites, twisted/connected capped all the grounds, capped off the red. When I turn on the breaker at the circuit box, the light comes on at the fixture, then when I turn off the light, it trips the breaker. Don't know what's going on - this is frustrating.
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Which wires did you connect to the light?
I connected black to black, white to white, ground to ground and capped off the red.
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You should not have made any changes at the switch. Before you made changes, was there a white connected to some blacks?
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You should not have made any changes at the switch. Before you made changes, was there a white connected to some blacks?
Honestly, I can't remember. I had to remove one of the wall switches anyway because last year a picture fell and broke off the on/off switch knob. Should I connect a white to the blacks? If so, the white from which wire do I connect to the blacks?
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when I turn off ? the light, it trips the breaker.
Sounds like the switch is across a hot and a neutral/ground. If so, it's probably clobbered. 400 A went through it for a few milliseconds before the breaker tripped.

If you have an incand. lamp, DVM, a 3 wire extension cord for test leads, and known good hot and ground connections somewhere close by, you can confirm what each wire does.
It's a maximum of two tests per wire, and you flip the switch for each test.

Once the grounds and neutrals are confirmed it goes pretty fast.

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Sounds like the switch is across a hot and a neutral/ground.
My conclusion, as well. What color of wires are connected to your switch? It would not happen to be white and black?

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