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Old 05-05-2009, 10:44 AM   #16
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As far as the OP... that is a pointless waste of money. Not only are AFCIs junk, but you will have to virtually disassemble your panel to put them in. Your receptacles probably weren't melted due to an arc. Likely they were melted by high contact resistance. Your best bet is to just swap the outlets out. Far cheaper.

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Not lots of locations according to this

http://www.childoutletsafety.org/fil...doptionMap.pdf
Apparently not as many as I thought. But WV still hasn't adopted it according to their official website. And no place I know of around here even carries TR receptacles.
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not sure about other states, but here it varies from township to township too.
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As far as the OP... that is a pointless waste of money. Not only are AFCIs junk, but you will have to virtually disassemble your panel to put them in. Your receptacles probably weren't melted due to an arc. Likely they were melted by high contact resistance. Your best bet is to just swap the outlets out. Far cheaper.
That's what I'm slowly doing. Out of about 15 replaced so far, about 4 looked partially "melted". The ones I'm replacing are all cheap builder-grade, which don't hold anything plugged-in very tightly. All were installed with the "stab in the back" quick-connects.

Doesn't sound like AFCIs are quite ready for "prime-time"...
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"Once we have AFCI on all of the circuits and there are still fires of electrical origin, there should be a very large class action product liability suit that will remove the product from the market and punish the shareholders."
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I agree with your contention that the AFC breaker didn't detect the arc fault and didn't trip. The early editions could only detect "across-the-line" faults and were useless in "series" (line-to-line or neutral-to-neutral) faults. When I inquired @ the electrical supply store, whether they detect series faults, and couldn't get a firm answer, I knew how much they were worth. However, the newer, Combination AFC is effective on all kinds of arc-faults. One note of caution, however! If there is any (intentionally or otherwise) grounded neutral, on the circuit the [comb.] breaker will trip as soon as it's energized!!!
There are methods to find and eliminate the "grounded neutral" from the line!

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