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DIYGST 02-24-2009 01:26 PM

remodel recessed lighting
 
Going to use Halo H7RICAT (6" remodel, IC, air tight)

http://www.haloltg.com/common/brands...amily&id=13878

I don't think the installation needs a single wire nut at all, it has these connectors on the end of a wire that you push in, what I don't know is how do you release the wire if you need to?

And, is there a connector to hold the NM cable to the metal J box that is included perhaps?

Last question, at the last can of the circuit, it is just 1 cable going into the J box, correc? The rest of the cans have 1 going in and 1 going to the next?

PLUMBINGITALL 02-24-2009 02:13 PM

There is not a connector with the remodle can; you have to purchase it. The connector that you need is a romex connector. On the wireing yes you will only have one wire in the last j box

Piedmont 02-24-2009 02:45 PM

Unless things have changed within the past few months I had to use wirenuts with that model. I just got a bunch of 1/2" ones, although that can has fittings for both 3/4" and 1/2" if you just have a single wire the 3/4" can't close enough to secure it. I used two 1/2" ones per can cept the last one. They look like below (you'll notice in the metal box with the wires of the recessed light are full of plugs you can pop out. It's to hold the item in the below picture,
http://www.heyco.com/products/sec_03/im_03/3-27a.jpg

I think it's self explanatory how they attach to the plug you pop out where the wires of the recessed can are, and then you feed the romex in and secure it afterward). Make sure you add these first BEFORE you bring in the wire the wire has to be fed through them, and make sure you pop out only the 1/2" plugs if you get 1/2" ones. They're cheap, you can get a bag of them for sometimes a couple bucks.



Those cans are not particularly air tight, I couldn't believe how much light I could see coming from everywhere after installing them (as I installed them in my attic so could really see how much air they leak).

I recommend you get air tight trims also, they are about as air tight as you're going to get with recessed lights. They're made by commercial electric (home depot) and look like cones and have gaskets (one at the top where the wiring comes in and one at the base that goes around the rim). Those are actually about as close to air tight as you're going to get, it's a nice combo to go in that can (2 levels of air tight). You can do a search on here for air-tight recessed (or air-tite) and see some posts I talk about them along with pictures.

220/221 02-24-2009 05:05 PM

Connectors is built into the jb. :thumbup: It's a simple tension thingy.

Wire conectors are already installed :thumbup:

Last question = :thumbup:

Caution:

These "airtight" cans are less than stellar. The only difference from the standard remodel can is some stick black tape like stuff by the clips .

Also beware that the halo cans are really really flimsy. The part that holds the socket hangs loosely/crooked and tends to fall out. When you attach the trims to it, it wants to pull the lamp down at an angle. We stopped using them.

DIYGST 02-24-2009 05:18 PM

I have to install LED bulbs on it and Halo is one of the listed compatible models, also need to be IC, and AT for California requirements..

For my installation, I have to cut off the edison socket and crimp on GU24, I think the tab that holds the edison is discarded then, I will have to install the dangling GU24 socket onto the LED bulb, put in place and turn. So it may not be an issue with the socket coming loose, because I am not using it

Not easy to find Juno brand locally.. the rest of the Halo housing seems OK to me.. I thought I saw it came with a romex clamp inside the J box, I have to check, anyways it's cheap enough.

DIYGST 03-01-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piedmont (Post 236039)
Unless things have changed within the past few months I had to use wirenuts with that model. I just got a bunch of 1/2" ones, although that can has fittings for both 3/4" and 1/2" if you just have a single wire the 3/4" can't close enough to secure it. I used two 1/2" ones per can cept the last one. They look like below (you'll notice in the metal box with the wires of the recessed light are full of plugs you can pop out. It's to hold the item in the below picture,
http://www.heyco.com/products/sec_03/im_03/3-27a.jpg

I think it's self explanatory how they attach to the plug you pop out where the wires of the recessed can are, and then you feed the romex in and secure it afterward). Make sure you add these first BEFORE you bring in the wire the wire has to be fed through them, and make sure you pop out only the 1/2" plugs if you get 1/2" ones. They're cheap, you can get a bag of them for sometimes a couple bucks.



Those cans are not particularly air tight, I couldn't believe how much light I could see coming from everywhere after installing them (as I installed them in my attic so could really see how much air they leak).

I recommend you get air tight trims also, they are about as air tight as you're going to get with recessed lights. They're made by commercial electric (home depot) and look like cones and have gaskets (one at the top where the wiring comes in and one at the base that goes around the rim). Those are actually about as close to air tight as you're going to get, it's a nice combo to go in that can (2 levels of air tight). You can do a search on here for air-tight recessed (or air-tite) and see some posts I talk about them along with pictures.



Hi everyone I got this NM clamp here but since you need 1 wire in and 1 wire out on each light, can you put 2 NM wires under one of these, or do you use 2 separate knock outs + 2 clamps?

Thanks

220/221 03-02-2009 11:29 AM

You are over thinking it. Two wires is fine. What is important is the connections inside the box. Make sure they are really tight.

Again, I simply use the connectors built into the box. I have done it several thousand times. That's what they are there for :thumbup:

DIYGST 03-02-2009 01:42 PM

Oh you mean the little rectangles is for you to just stick the romex thru, and you don't have to spend on clamps?

Thanks finished the job... everything lit up the first time.. beautiful

The Halo comes with splice you push in so you don't have to use wire nuts.

The clips sucks! I had to use a stubby screw driver on it to bend up and over even broke the prying slots on some of them. Didn't work with any other method. Should have looked for cans that have ears.

220/221 03-02-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

The clips sucks!
Yes.....they do.

Scuba_Dave 03-02-2009 02:47 PM

I've always bought & installed clamps - never saw a recessed fixture that you didn't need to clamp down the incoming wire. Of course I've only seen 4 versions of cans :laughing:


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