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shadango 07-03-2008 11:37 AM

relocating light junction boxes on brick wall.
 
I have two wall mounted exterior lights on my home, one on either side of my garage....located under a 3 foot or so overhang.

They are too low on the house for the style of light I would like to use...they are mounted on junction boxes installed into the brick. I need the new lights to mount about a foot or 18 inches higher....

I know the RIGHT way would be to move the wall box...but that means removing the old one, repairing the brick and then installing a new box in the wall, times two.

Is there any other way to handle this that would be safe and look good?

Thanks in advance.

Termite 07-03-2008 11:49 AM

Can you install new junction boxes on the interior side of garage at the same height (interior side)? If so, you can splice your wires there and extend them on down to the new location of the the exterior fixture boxes. The old boxes could be removed and the wall can be patched.

You can't splice the wires in the wall, and you can't conceal a junction box in a location that can't be accessed.

shadango 07-03-2008 12:34 PM

Actually, extending the wiring is the easy part.....I have to actually raise the boxes, and the wires go into the block wall (veneered with brick) directly....So I can just yank the wires through and go from there...

The issue here is a) having to cut a new box into the front of the wall so the lights have something to hang on and to conceal the wiring connections in.....and (even more importantly) b) patching where the old boxes were.

I was wondering if someone makes an adaptor plate, if that makes sense....

I have seen these raised plates that you use on vinyl siding that allow you to mount lights etc on the siding.....they conceal the wiring and all....

Or I was thinking of making a couple of really nicely stained pieces of wood and build a pancake box into it at the top for the lights to mount to and then the wood would extend down behind the new light to cover the old box...the wood would serve as a backdrop of sorts.....a trim panel as it were. Butwasnt sure if that was "legal".

amakarevic 07-03-2008 12:53 PM

if you have an SDS hammer drill, or even a spline one, drilling in brick should not be a problem. if you don't, here's an excuse to buy a truly cure addition to your toy kit.

the code may require that there be conduit between the JB and the new receptacle, which should be the plainest one (no fancy braces) attached with masonry screws (typically blue).

jimmy21 07-03-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shadango (Post 135708)
Or I was thinking of making a couple of really nicely stained pieces of wood and build a pancake box into it at the top for the lights to mount to and then the wood would extend down behind the new light to cover the old box...the wood would serve as a backdrop of sorts.....a trim panel as it were. Butwasnt sure if that was "legal".

that would be the only way to do it, from what i gather that your wanting to do. I don't know if im picking up what your putting down correctly, so just keep these two tidbits in mind. All connections must be in an approved box, all connections must accessible, and all romex must be physically protected


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