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ericmunyon12345 03-03-2013 07:58 PM

Redo???
 
Ok, a friend retired my garage. The plugs (2) are gcfi protected. The lights (including exterior food light) and plug in the rafters (for the door opener which is new) are NOT gfci protected. He didn't want the opener to trip the gfci, which it shouldn't, or the lights to kill. All the wiring is good, but I know technically the whole garage should be gfci protected. It wouldn't take too much to change a few connections and have it all protected through the load on the gfci plug. Should I do it, or don't bother for just lights and door opener?

stickboy1375 03-03-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ericmunyon12345 (Post 1129364)
Ok, a friend retired my garage. The plugs (2) are gcfi protected. The lights (including exterior food light) and plug in the rafters (for the door opener which is new) are NOT gfci protected. He didn't want the opener to trip the gfci, which it shouldn't, or the lights to kill. All the wiring is good, but I know technically the whole garage should be gfci protected. It wouldn't take too much to change a few connections and have it all protected through the load on the gfci plug. Should I do it, or don't bother for just lights and door opener?

Depending on what code cycle you are on, technically, the entire garage does NOT need to be GFCI protected.

brric 03-03-2013 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ericmunyon12345 (Post 1129364)
Ok, a friend retired my garage. The plugs (2) are gcfi protected. The lights (including exterior food light) and plug in the rafters (for the door opener which is new) are NOT gfci protected. He didn't want the opener to trip the gfci, which it shouldn't, or the lights to kill. All the wiring is good, but I know technically the whole garage should be gfci protected. It wouldn't take too much to change a few connections and have it all protected through the load on the gfci plug. Should I do it, or don't bother for just lights and door opener?

Lighting does not need GFCI protection. simply install another GFCI for thr door operator.

joecaption 03-03-2013 08:12 PM

Your post makes almost no since, but the only thing that needs to be GFI protected is the outside and inside lower outlets.
The ones for the garage door opener do not need to be GFI protected.
Not going to do any harm if they are though.
A circut breaker protects from an over loaded circut, a GFI protects againt an unbalanced circut. It's not going to trip just because a garage door kicks in.
http://home.howstuffworks.com/question117.htm

stickboy1375 03-03-2013 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by joecaption (Post 1129377)
Your post makes almost no since, but the only thing that needs to be GFI protected is the outside and inside lower outlets.
The ones for the garage door opener do not need to be GFI protected.

This entirely depends on what code cycle the OP is on....

Jim Port 03-03-2013 08:45 PM

The exception for single receptacles and ceiling mounted one not to have GFI protection has been removed in the 08 an 11 NEC. The protection needs to be readily accessible.

ericmunyon12345 03-03-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375

This entirely depends on what code cycle the OP is on....

No idea, and couldn't just find in a search. I'm in SW Michigan. Berrien Co.

ericmunyon12345 03-03-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Port
The exception for single receptacles and ceiling mounted one not to have GFI protection has been removed in the 08 an 11 NEC. The protection needs to be readily accessible.

Sorry, to be clear, are you saying the rafter outlet IS now required to be gfci? Thanks.

k_buz 03-03-2013 08:52 PM

According to the map I have Michigan is on the 2008 code cycle and ALL garage receptacles would need GFI protection.

stickboy1375 03-03-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ericmunyon12345 (Post 1129412)
Sorry, to be clear, are you saying the rafter outlet IS now required to be gfci? Thanks.

It is, but as said earlier you may not have this requirement depending on what code cycle your state has adopted, but for simplicity sakes, since you are concerned to begin with, just install a GFCI breaker and feel safe again. :)

Jim Port 03-03-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ericmunyon12345 (Post 1129412)
Sorry, to be clear, are you saying the rafter outlet IS now required to be gfci? Thanks.

Yes, the 08 states that all 15 and 20 amp 120 volt receptacles have GFI protection.


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