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Old 08-26-2009, 01:09 PM   #16
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What does "over the tub" mean? right over? 2' away from the edge?

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What!.. no TV while in the tub!!....oh wait.. you just said no receptacles over the tub....

Even so I wonder how you watch tv while showering...
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I got wall space to move it

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If it's recessed & the outlet is in the next room
TV ok? Over Toilet yes, over bath?

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You can install the receptacle anywhere that isn't immediately above the tub or tub deck. The exact code language escapes me, but as long as it isn't over the tub/tub deck, you're ok. I'd say that if you were to install glass tub walls all the way to the ceiling, that would pretty much identify the no-no zone. The code doesn't say that a switch or receptacle has to be ___ inches away from a tub.

The code doesn't say that the TV itself can't be in that space as I recall. It might raise some eyebrows though, so I'd get it pre-approved with your inspector before you do it.

You might be able to get away with putting the receptacle behind a cabinet door in an adjoining room. BUT, you might get hassled for running the appliance cord inside the wall, a concealed location. In the interest of safety and compromise I've allowed this installation before as long as the receptacle was absolutely accessible only from the adjoining room. I also asked for a GFCI receptacle even though the receptacle wasn't in the bathroom...In the interest of give and take.
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What does "over the tub" mean? right over? 2' away from the edge?
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LOL I was just joking about the TV. But seeing that picture guess I see it would be kind of cool...

Though if seriously putting a TV over a bath I'd actually fix something up so it's inside an enclosed glass cabinet of some sort. "just in case". Definably GFI protect the whole circuit too.
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The owners manual for every conventional television and monitor sold in the US contains a warning to the effect that:



and the only type of television or monitor you are allowed to use in such locations is a unit specifically designed for installation at such locations.

I've never actually seen one of those except in a catalog, instead I see various sorts of Darwin Award efforts, for example:


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Actually I was thinking of the TV in the other room
A niche shelf blocked from the shower/bath by glass
But I can't say that I have ever wanted to watch TV while showering
We have a radio in the bathroom that I play

From the hot tub (outside) we will be able to view the TV in the sunroom
And hear it with the window/slider open

I remember like 20 years ago a friend built their TV into the laudry closet
It freed up a lot of room in the main room
The 1st "flat screen" TV

Owners manual....read.....TV....does not compute
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Owners manual....read.....TV....does not compute
Though such disclaimers are very handy to the surviving spouse's lawyer when they sue the builder, the electrician, the real estate agent, and everyone else in sight.....
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I've never actually seen one of those except in a catalog, instead I see various sorts of Darwin Award efforts, for example:



LOL I don't know what's worse, seeing a TV over the bath, or the fact that there's an outlet, and to make matters worse it's not a GFI outlet!
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Could be a GFCI breaker
I don't like an outlet any where near the tub/shower
Heck I don't even like them near the sink
But in a small bathroom - no choice
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Heck I don't even like them near the sink
But in a small bathroom - no choice

Has to be withing 3 feet of each sink basin:

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Has to be withing 3" of each sink basin:

3"
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....The AFCI code changes are a result of fires started by arcing

Still a lot of discussion going on regarding AFCI's
I believe that the AFCI code changes were a result of extensive lobbying by the Eaton Corporation (manufacturer of Cutler-Hammer). I still have a bad taste in my mouth over how they implemented this requirement.

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