My canned light fixture can be slid downward when I think it should be absolutely stationary. I'm not talking about the trim ring - I've removed that. It is the can itself that can be slid down about an inch. I would like to install a conversion kit so that I can hang a five-pound pendant light. Does anyone know how this can light is installed and affixed to the structure?
My home was built in 1995 and this recessed canned lighting fixture was installed by the builder. However, when I got started, and pulled to remove the black trim ring, I noticed that the whole entire fixture slid down a little. When I pulled on the trim ring, which was held on by three clips with a pressure fit, the entire white "can" or fixture also started could be pulled down about an inch. I'm not talking about the decorative trim. No, it is the can that can be pulled down a half-inch to an inch. That has me concerned about hanging anything from it. It doesn't seem that the can itself should move at all. And I can push it back up, flush, into position. But I can pull it back down about a half-inch, too. Not good, I don't think, for holding a pendant light! Please see pictures below.
I have no idea what the installation looks like from above. It is in a place in the attic that would be extremely difficult to access. I'm looking for anyone who can tell me how these are installed, how they can be disassembled, and what I can do to reinforce it to keep it from sliding down... or, if it is a lost cause.
My recessed lighting fixture is a Lightolier Recessed Downlighting Lytecan, Model L511MG. (Lightolier was Genlyte company that was bought out by Philips in 2008.)
The raised white bumps/particles on the outside of the light socket are from when the original popcorn ceiling was sprayed. The fact that the socket has popcorn spray on it, but the inside of the can does not, tells me that the socket can be separated from the can and the can must have been put on later. I can see that they are separate, too, however, when I move the can downward, the socket comes right along with it. I tried, but the socket does not push upward and out of the can. So the socket and the can must be attached together somehow.
The inside of the can is perfectly smooth except for four very small areas - looks like some kind of clips, but I can't tell how they work. Two of the clips are at the very top, on either side of the socket. The other two clips are opposite one another on the sides of the can. Wish I could tell how these clips work.
The conversion kit I plan to use is the model 01011 Westinghouse Recessed Light Converter kit that is supposed to work on ANY can size between four and six inches (their emphasis, not mine).
I weighed the pendant light and yes, it is only five pounds.
The photo below shows the can as far down as it will go. This was taken after I gently pulled on it to see how far it would come down.
Perfectly smooth inside the can except for the four small clip areas:
Red arrows show the clips on either side of the socket. Blue arrows show clips on either side of the can, about half way down.
Photos below show close-ups of side clips:
Do you know how this model of can light was installed? Thanks in advance for your help!
Carol
My home was built in 1995 and this recessed canned lighting fixture was installed by the builder. However, when I got started, and pulled to remove the black trim ring, I noticed that the whole entire fixture slid down a little. When I pulled on the trim ring, which was held on by three clips with a pressure fit, the entire white "can" or fixture also started could be pulled down about an inch. I'm not talking about the decorative trim. No, it is the can that can be pulled down a half-inch to an inch. That has me concerned about hanging anything from it. It doesn't seem that the can itself should move at all. And I can push it back up, flush, into position. But I can pull it back down about a half-inch, too. Not good, I don't think, for holding a pendant light! Please see pictures below.
I have no idea what the installation looks like from above. It is in a place in the attic that would be extremely difficult to access. I'm looking for anyone who can tell me how these are installed, how they can be disassembled, and what I can do to reinforce it to keep it from sliding down... or, if it is a lost cause.
My recessed lighting fixture is a Lightolier Recessed Downlighting Lytecan, Model L511MG. (Lightolier was Genlyte company that was bought out by Philips in 2008.)
The raised white bumps/particles on the outside of the light socket are from when the original popcorn ceiling was sprayed. The fact that the socket has popcorn spray on it, but the inside of the can does not, tells me that the socket can be separated from the can and the can must have been put on later. I can see that they are separate, too, however, when I move the can downward, the socket comes right along with it. I tried, but the socket does not push upward and out of the can. So the socket and the can must be attached together somehow.
The inside of the can is perfectly smooth except for four very small areas - looks like some kind of clips, but I can't tell how they work. Two of the clips are at the very top, on either side of the socket. The other two clips are opposite one another on the sides of the can. Wish I could tell how these clips work.
The conversion kit I plan to use is the model 01011 Westinghouse Recessed Light Converter kit that is supposed to work on ANY can size between four and six inches (their emphasis, not mine).
I weighed the pendant light and yes, it is only five pounds.
The photo below shows the can as far down as it will go. This was taken after I gently pulled on it to see how far it would come down.
Perfectly smooth inside the can except for the four small clip areas:
Red arrows show the clips on either side of the socket. Blue arrows show clips on either side of the can, about half way down.
Photos below show close-ups of side clips:
Do you know how this model of can light was installed? Thanks in advance for your help!
Carol