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BuffaloWinters 01-31-2010 04:51 PM

Receptacles/Sockets stopped working
 
There must be a simple reason why electrical wall sockets stop working suddenly. I've checked the circuit breakers and none were off but I reset them anyway. They are just regular wall sockets, not GFI, not near water. come to think of it, since these two in the kitchen have stopped working, there are a couple in the finished basement that have never worked since I moved in here. Thanks.

Bob Mariani 01-31-2010 05:04 PM

Seems that this strange thing happens with everything that breaks. It worked right before it did not work? Just need to start troubleshooting the problem. Where does it not work and where does it work. Is there wire backstabbed into one outlet near it that works? This is one area that may cause this. Or the wire broke from a staple that was too tight and the heat of using the circuit finally weakened it enough to break.

frenchelectrican 01-31-2010 05:51 PM

First thing you have to do is check few other spots where the GFCI receptale may show up they will show up in odd place look behind the frezzer or other place you never think in normal fashion.

Once you verifed then you may have a connetion issue with one of the receptale backstabbed recepetales are most common cuprit.

Merci,Marc

BuffaloWinters 01-31-2010 08:41 PM

Thanks
 
Thanks for the response. I learned what backstabbing is from another forum, and if I'm correct it is a go-around to a more proper installation that does not use the screws on the receptacle. So given that, if that is indeed the problem, then replacing the receptacles should resolve the problem.

And thanks for the tip about a GFCI that I hadn't noticed. I'll check for that first.

spark plug 01-31-2010 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Mariani (Post 392354)
Seems that this strange thing happens with everything that breaks. It worked right before it did not work? Just need to start troubleshooting the problem. Where does it not work and where does it work. Is there wire backstabbed into one outlet near it that works? This is one area that may cause this. Or the wire broke from a staple that was too tight and the heat of using the circuit finally weakened it enough to break.

My answer might be slightly off topic. But the top line of your post is sooo funny. We have an elder statesman (and former Sports Team Manager) in New York State, named Yogi Berra, who coined phrases that became Classics through their simplicity. One example is the phrase, when a game didn't go very well; "It Ain't Over Till It's Over"! Well. From a Philosophical point of view it's very funny. "Everything worked till it sopped working". But you're 100% right that there are no shortcuts in troubleshooting. It's a lot of tedious work. But some common sense has to be applied. Where to start looking for the problem. Interestingly, it was determined (by the testing labs or by the reports of failed connections) that the "Backstabbing" method has a high failure rate, especially with #12 wire. As a consequence, the Manufacturers have made it impossible to insert #12 in the "Quick-Connect" terminal. The wire can only be wrapped around the Screws!:thumbsup:!

Bob Mariani 01-31-2010 09:17 PM

And that is the answer I gave them

spark plug 01-31-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Mariani (Post 392500)
And that is the answer I gave them

Just enhancing your advice. But the phrases coined by Yogi Berra are so much fun. I think there is a website that lists them all.:thumbsup:!


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