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Old 03-18-2011, 12:12 PM   #1
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Receptacle ground pin...up or down?


A plethora of debate already exists. But, I don't think I've ever heard argued the one reason I believe why recepts should be installed with ground pin down. Shoot back your reasons why it should be one way or the other.


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You're kidding, right? This is the never ending debate and until code regulates it, well, it simply isn't regulated and you can do whatever you want to do.

but, since I'm bored.

pin up; means that if a knife or such would fall behind the plug, it would most likely hit the ground first and if it went further, would allow a direct short and trip the breaker.


pin down; some wall wart transformers and some 90 plugs are designed so the tail is at the bottom with the pin down.. That means there is less stress on the wire and as such, safer.

so, why not just require these, or something similar, and it doesn't matter:

http://www.altex.com/4-Outlet-Plug-i...W-P147797.aspx

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If your wife's like mine, I have to install them ground hole down....because she said so.
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If your wife's like mine, I have to install them ground hole down....because she said so.
and that is as good of a reason as any I have heard.

I have had it spec'd on a job before. Can't remember which way it was though. They also spec'd horizontal installs to be one way or the other as well.

Simply architect's prerogative.
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If your wife's like mine, I have to install them ground hole down....because she said so.
OK haven't heard that one in this context but it will supercede the reason I was thinking.
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Pin up.

With it down, if the plug comes partially out, a metal object could potentially make contact with both prongs. This is, IMO, virtually impossible with the pin up.
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If your wife's like mine, I have to install them ground hole down....because she said so.
Well, she's right. They're CUTER that way. Like little surprised faces.


BTW- most of the recs in my house are SIDEWAYS, neutral up.

I do them pin up for new work. You can always swap it if you've got something to plug in that works better with pin down.
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Well, she's right. They're CUTER that way. Like little surprised faces..


I remember the first time that I ever seen a U-ground receptacle and was wondering which way I should install it (1958)

After studying it for awhile I decided that pin down made a cute face and proceeded to install them this way, for the next 30 years!
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After studying it for awhile I decided that pin down made a cute face and proceeded to install them this way, for the next 30 years!
well, at least you had a reason. I tend to not anthropomorphise inanimate objects so I never really got the face thing. I put them a particular way (ground down), because that is common for my area, unless existing receps are the other way or the architect specs it the other way.
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We put `em all ground down, except for the wall-switch controlled outlets. Those are put ground-up so one can tell whether they are using a switched-outlet or not.
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Pins down, pins to the right. No reason other than I want it that way.
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My newly found reasoning for pins down is the vast number of plug-in recept testers available in the market. Most if not all of them have the LEDs and codes placed on the tester such that placing the tester in a pin up receptacle would require one to lay down and read upside down. Are there any which are bi-orientable?
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i think the ground down is pretty standard. Reasoning ive heard is that if the room flooded, water would get to the ground first. Unlikely scenario, but its the only reasoning ive ever heard
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I think orientaion is mostly a matter of what's common in your area. I once worked with a guy that was from Wisconsin, and he told me that he was used to 'pin-up'. Around here, it's mostly pin-down, except in some hospitals, patient care, etc., or as Nap mentioned, if the plans spec it a certain way. A fellow employee I work with had to go back to a commercial job he did, and flip the recepts around so they were pin-down. The manager of the store asked him why he even put them pin-up in the first place. He answered "because the print said to." The manager didn't care...said flip 'em to pin-down. An example of what's common in your area.

PS...Glad y'all got a chuckle out of my wife's reasoning for pin-down.
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We put `em all ground down, except for the wall-switch controlled outlets. Those are put ground-up so one can tell whether they are using a switched-outlet or not.
I like your reasoning the best, thanks for the tip.

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