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Thadius856 08-09-2012 07:16 PM

Range Hood on Microwave Circuit - Legal?
 
Just pulled six 20A 12-2 home runs for the kitchen remod. Want to make sure I pulled these correctly before I consider the rough-in complete. Pulled two countertop small appliance, one dishwasher/garbage disposal, one refrigerator, one lighting.

The sixth serves a single counter-top receptacle where I plan to plug in my countertop microwave (1200W). I ran the gas stove pilot light receptacle and range hood light/fan power off this circuit. I figured this was logical since a micro/hood combo gets its own circuit.

Is this legal, or do I need to fix this before I continue? Still have plenty of wire hanging out of the boxes if I need to make changes.

MisterZ 08-09-2012 08:07 PM

Micro Hood must have dedicated circuit. Countertop one i dont think its "required"
1200 watt is a decent size, if its no trouble to give it a separate circuit, why not do it?:)

k_buz 08-09-2012 08:18 PM

I would put it on a separate 20A circuit...the range hood that is. It is probably going to be overkill right now, but its going to come in real handy when you decide to install an over the range micro.

stickboy1375 08-09-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thadius856 (Post 985197)

The sixth serves a single counter-top receptacle where I plan to plug in my countertop microwave (1200W). I ran the gas stove pilot light receptacle and range hood light/fan power off this circuit. I figured this was logical since a micro/hood combo gets its own circuit.

You cant have the hood on this circuit, put the hood on the lighting circuit, the stove is legit. :)

stickboy1375 08-09-2012 08:20 PM

Why cant we just answer the code question?

No, the third small appliance circuit you pulled to the countertop cannot serve the hood unit....

MisterZ 08-09-2012 08:26 PM

re-read the post. misunderstood. thought he had a MicroHood on dedicated, and also a Counter Microwave on another countertop circuit.

k_buz 08-09-2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375 (Post 985250)
Why cant we just answer the code question?

No, the third small appliance circuit you pulled to the countertop cannot serve the hood unit....

Could you point to a code reference on that?

stickboy1375 08-09-2012 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by k_buz (Post 985256)
Could you point to a code reference on that?

Right back at you, tell me where it is allowed....


But since you asked, 210.52 (B)(2) No Other outlets. The two or MORE small-appliance branch circuits shall have no other outlets...

stickboy1375 08-09-2012 08:43 PM

Two small appliance circuits IS the minimum, but you can have as many as you want, but they still ALL fall under 210.52 (B)

stickboy1375 08-09-2012 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by k_buz (Post 985247)
I would put it on a separate 20A circuit...the range hood that is. It is probably going to be overkill right now, but its going to come in real handy when you decide to install an over the range micro.

I agree with this statement as well. :thumbup:

k_buz 08-09-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stickboy1375 (Post 985263)
Right back at you, tell me where it is allowed....


But since you asked, 210.52 (B)(2) No Other outlets. The two or MORE small-appliance branch circuits shall have no other outlets...

One word missed in a different code messed my logic up. I agree with your assessment.

Thadius856 08-09-2012 10:31 PM

Read all this twice and not sure I understand fully. I think the concensus is:

Move gas range to one of the small appliance circuits.
Move range hood to lighting circuit.

Now have 3 small appliance circuits, the 3rd one to the single countertop receptacle for the plug in countertop microwave.

If I ever decide to change to micro hood some day down the road, pull 3rd small appliance back up the wall cavity, remove hood from lighting circuit, and drop the spare circuit back down to dedicate to microhood.

Is this correct?

MisterZ 08-09-2012 11:27 PM

Minimum 2 small appliance outlets in kitchen. These outlets shall not have any other outlets. (Dedicated)
Just run a dedicated circuit for the countertop microwave.
Personally i would run another dedicated outlet for the range hood. I dont believe it is considered a small appliance.
Although it may not be required, to do it now would save time and money later.

The gas range is not considered a small appliance, as it only powers the clock.
It can be either a 15 or 20 amp shared circuit.

frenchelectrican 08-09-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MisterZ (Post 985345)
Minimum 2 small appliance outlets in kitchen. These outlets shall not have any other outlets. (Dedicated)
Just run a dedicated circuit for the countertop microwave.
Personally i would run another dedicated outlet for the range hood. I dont believe it is considered a small appliance.
Although it may not be required, to do it now would save time and money later.

The gas range is not considered a small appliance, as it only powers the clock.
It can be either a 15 or 20 amp shared circuit.


I put a underline part but I just want to double check with ya about the shared circuit which part are you refering to this ??

Merci.
Marc

stickboy1375 08-10-2012 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Thadius856 (Post 985327)
Read all this twice and not sure I understand fully. I think the concensus is:

Move gas range to one of the small appliance circuits.
Move range hood to lighting circuit.

Now have 3 small appliance circuits, the 3rd one to the single countertop receptacle for the plug in countertop microwave.

If I ever decide to change to micro hood some day down the road, pull 3rd small appliance back up the wall cavity, remove hood from lighting circuit, and drop the spare circuit back down to dedicate to microhood.

Is this correct?

For the most part, or you could new a new 20 amp line now for the hood, it's up to you.


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