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Old 11-09-2009, 11:02 PM   #1
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This is my first post, thanks in advance for all responses.

I am upgrading my kitchen countertop and backsplash and plan to replace all the receptables with GFCI. I have about 26 feet of total countertop/backsplash area (includes 6 feet window and 3 ft cooktop). Currently there are only 3 receptables. I read somewhere that I need to have 1 GFCI every 4 feet.
1. Is it correct that these need to be on 2 separate lines ?
2. Since there's a 6 ft window and a 3 ft cooktop in between, how can I figure out how to space them? For example, I have: 8ft wall - 6 ft window - 6 ft wall - 3 ft cooktop - 2 ft wall
3. For under cabinet lighting - if they are hard-wired to a line - can I use an existing line (assuming of course I have enough load margin) or is it also required to be on a different line??

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Example of kitchen code required
Must have at least (2) 20a GFCI protected counter circuits
Lights - including under cabinets -can't be on this circuit
Built in microwave may need dedicated, dishwasher usually dedicated
Check with your local Inspector for specific codes


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Keep in mind, the receptacles need to be GFCI protected they don't need to be GFCI receptacles. You can wire "normal" receptacles to the load-side of a GFCI receptacle, or put in GFCI breakers to accomplish the same result. I put a GFCI receptacle at the start of each of my 2 SABC runs in my kitchen and used normal recepts for the rest.
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Thanks for the replies, very informative.
I had an electricial run 2 new lines and use one GFCI receptable at the start of each run followed by 2 normal receptables on each side.
As for the under cabinet lights I used a separate line but was quite disappointed at the available choices for hardwired lights available at HD or Lowes. I was looking for non-fluorescent but unfortunately none of the pucks have an option for hardwiring and all the xenon/halogen that allow hardwiring come with a rather large enclosure that looks ugly under the cabinet. Today I found out that OSH sells a box that can be used to convert hardwiring to regular outlet, so I am thinking of using this to hook up pucks.
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...Today I found out that OSH sells a box that can be used to convert hardwiring to regular outlet, so I am thinking of using this to hook up pucks.

Does anyone know what converting box he is talking about? I tried to look on Orcards website but their website is very lacking. Anyone have a link to the above mentioned coverting box?
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A 3' minor appliance (blender, toaster, etc) cord must be able to reach a kitchen counter receptacle. This essentially allows them to be up to 6' apart, along a continuous (unbroken) kitchen counter. The first, obviously within 3' of where the counter starts and every restart.

Don't forget that adjacent kitchen counter receptacles may NOT be on the same circuit, and there may NOT be more than two outlets (total) on the same circuit. All kitchen counter ckts (minimum 2) must be 120V 20A ckts, all the outlets be GFCI protected, all receptacles rated 125V 20A.

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A 3' minor appliance (blender, toaster, etc) cord must be able to reach a kitchen counter receptacle. This essentially allows them to be up to 6' apart, along a continuous (unbroken) kitchen counter. The first, obviously within 3' of where the counter starts and every restart.

Don't forget that adjacent kitchen counter receptacles may NOT be on the same circuit, and there may NOT be more than two outlets (total) on the same circuit. All kitchen counter ckts (minimum 2) must be 120V 20A ckts, all the outlets be GFCI protected, all receptacles rated 125V 20A.

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Under the NEC,


The spacing requirements are such that no point on the countertop is more than 2' from a receptacle. This basically means no more than 4' between.

There is no NEC requirement regarding how the circuits are arranged. They can be ABAB or AAABBB.

Here is a graphic from Mike Holt
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The outlets can also be rated 15a, 20a pass thru
As stated there can also be more than 2 outlets on each circuit
The original thread starter is from last November

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