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Old 04-20-2013, 05:24 PM   #76
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If anyone looks down on trades people then they very probably are a little on the dumb side. I would bet they are superficial ill-informed people for sure.
Exactly, but that means "ignorant", not "dumb".

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As far as the statement above that the math and physics an engineer needs would make the very best electricians head explode Ė balderdash! That is biased opinion that cannot be backed up by any facts and does in fact seem condescending.
I'd say the average "professional" has a higher IQ than the average tradesman. That's not necessarily a bad thing, it's just how it is. If it seems condescending, we should probably realize IQ isn't the most important thing in the world, assuming it's above a certain reasonable threshold.

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ddawg16 there is an old saying ďwhen you try to make an impression thatís the impression you makeĒ.

I think I spotted you as a phony when you posted above. (I hope others have spotted that also.) No one would ask for a specific equation. If you are trying to show off that you know what a differential equation is then you better do another post to explain it in your own words. That way we know you really understand it and thus can impart your knowledge on us.

Your attempt to show us how intelligent and knowledgeable you are is actually not contemptible Ė but rather laughable.

I really did do software/systems engineering stretching all the way back to the earliest days (However, Iím not sure you did.). Yes I know what core memory is, and PDP computers, and 8088ís, and 8086ís, etc. Iím probably older than you and those above who tried to dazzle us with this really old stuff. I bet you figured no one would know what you were talking about and thus you would be very impressive. Well Iím not impressed!

I started in the 1960ís and have (really, yes really) designed systems and written all kinds of software, down at the driver USART level to clock in bits, at the UNIX OS level, extensions for real-time OSís, applications in many many languages, data comm software, etc. including assembly language way back with 8088/8086/386/etc. I wonít go on. Iíve designed complete turnkey systems that really work!

You guys are really funny!
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USART? You got that off the internet, didn't you? Us 'old guys' called them UART's.

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Jeeze. I'm in my late 40's and you guys are making me feel like a kid.
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EE have taken math/physics courses that would make the very best electricianís head explode.
I said that with humor in mind, sorry you took offense. The comparison really could be EE(or other advanced degree) v. rest of population, not just v. electricians. Students in our nation's engineering schools are among the brightest of the lot, they don't simply make a commitment to prep for their course work, but have been deemed fit to excel in those courses based on their prior accomplishments and have hence been accepted. Most peoples head's would explode if they were required to take the same courses those students do (no matter how much "prep" was involved), it's just the way it is, we're not meant to be all the same.

This is not to say that many electricians, and many others, were not qualified/chosen for an advanced degree, but just preferred to take a different route. Like I also said, your average electrician makes much more $ than your average EE engineer. So which is the smarter one?
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Well I still have my Tandy SX 1000 ( thats Radio Shack for the youngin's ) in the basement in the box ...LOL it was a screamer i upgraded it to 2 5 1/4" floppy drives ....
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Well I still have my Tandy SX 1000 ( thats Radio Shack for the youngin's ) in the basement in the box ...LOL it was a screamer i upgraded it to 2 5 1/4" floppy drives ....
I owned a Tandy 1000 HX... Mine came with a built in 3.5" drive, and I bought an external 5 1/4" drive for it. and when I upgraded the memory from 256kb to 640 kb, they threw in a 300 baud modem. Those were the days!
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