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Old 02-25-2011, 10:36 AM   #1
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I understand that most professional electricians do not recommend using the backstab connectors on outlets and switches. What do you think of these new push-in connectors as a replacement for twist-on connectors?
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I have not had any reported problems with that style. The contact area and arrangement is better than the backstabs on the devices. They are also nice that you can see if the conductor is fully inserted in the connector.

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They are great. Expensive, but great!
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I agree with JV.

I have been using them (not exclusively) for about two years now and they are great.
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I use those a lot for light fixture work; ballasts, terminals; whatever. Really fast install. Makes up for the cost IMO and experience.

Haven't used them much in any other areas though.
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I use them when the ho cut the wires to short for the receptacles.
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We only use them for ballast work and relamps. Otherwise we use wirenuts for everything else.
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I have them in France for a quite awhile and there is not much issue but only one qurik is pretty hard to remove but it can be removeable by useing small screwdriver or twist it out.

I know they cost more than standard wirenuts but it justify the cost in quite few area.

And they are in few diffrent size and shape and numbers of ports { opening } but three and four port is most common one but I have see many as 8 port verison { that can get little pricey but it fine as long you have pretty large junction box for it }

And they can have big as 6.0mm˛ { #10 awg } max size but I don't really recall if they are appoved with alum conductor which I doubt it.

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They have underwriter approval, but then so did all those backstab outlets.
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Wow,
.....and I'm still using split-bolts with cloth tape!


JK , I haven't used them yet, I agree w/French, looks like they'll take up too much room in a box. I hate electrical items that take too long to remove.
These look like they fit in that category, along with snap-in plastic RX connectors, and the snap-in BX connectors, crimp-on wire nuts,...
....PITA...all of 'em.

In my old-school ways, nothing beats a properly twisted splice.
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JK , I haven't used them yet, I agree w/French, looks like they'll take up too much room in a box.
They are no different than a properly sized wire nut. Especially something like a 3M red/yellow.



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I hate electrical items that take too long to remove.
These look like they fit in that category, along with snap-in plastic RX connectors, and the snap-in BX connectors, crimp-on wire nuts,...
....PITA...all of 'em.
Now I am in the other camp. I will certainly deal with the occasional removal of one or two of these items in order to reap the benefits of the ease of installation of the many.

Also, there are ways around the issues of removal/changes. Ground crimps for instance. The argument that they cannot be removed and are a pain to change IMO is a bunch of baloney. This is a knee jerk reaction from someone who cannot think of a valid reason to hate them. To add a wire simply twist it on after the existing crimp and add another one. To remove a wire simply cut it off.
Same goes for these connectors. Always use one that is a few holes more than you need. The cost difference is literally 3 to 5 cents. If you need to add even more than that then either it is a change order, or you messed up royally and deserve to have to cut off the $.15 splice and use a new one.

These connectors are seeing widespread use in hotels and other large scale commercial projects. If they are good enough for them they are good enough for me.
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I agree. If I have to take one off, I just cut it off and use a new one. Loose about 1/2" of wire. If the wire is too short to do that, you probably need to add a pigtail anyway. To me, the time saved makes up for the cost.

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