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Old 11-07-2011, 10:49 AM   #1
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Hi Folks,

In my house we had a few ceiling fan pre-wires installed during the building phase. One of those is for a chandelier over our foyer (2 story foyer in a townhome). ALL of the ceiling pre-wires in our house have 2 switches. So I have a spare switch/power lead for the chandelier pre-wire.

MY question - how best to go fish a wire from the junction box to where I would like to put in some recessed lighting using the existing spare switch. I can see trying to get the tape into the junction box as a big problem...trying to figure out how best to do this.

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Old 11-07-2011, 10:54 AM   #2
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Plastic or metal boxes? Do both switches go to the ceiling box, or does one go to switched receptacle or receptacles? You may not need to get a cable into the switch box. Just find out where the cable goes after it leaves the switch box.

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Old 11-07-2011, 10:58 AM   #3
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Hi J.V. -

All the boxes are plastic. Both switches go straight to ceiling junction box (so you could have one switch to control lights, one to control a fan).

I just had a thought - since this was for a chandelier - they mounted a board to the 2 ceiling joists and the box is mounted to that board (more strength I guess). I could feasibly (assumign I can find a tall enough ladder and not do a swan dive off of it) cut out the old box, fish the wires through - install a new box?

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No need to cut out the old box.
You have to remove the chandelier to get to the other switched wire.
Then you pull the wires to the can lights, make connections and hang the light back up.
Of course you have to be able to get into the attic.
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Thanks. I should have clarified though - no chandelier currently hanging there, just a junction box with a cover plate on it. My biggest concern is how to best fish the wire to OR from the junction box, over to where my recessed lights will be. Is it easier to run a tape from the nearest cut out for the light to the knock out on the junction box? (Can see that giving me a headache) Or should I somehow push the wire from the junction box over to the nearest light location?
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The best thing to do is climb into the attic and run your wires.
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Dang it - I keep forgetting the important stuff.

I'm in a townhouse - this junction is on our second floor ceiling - no attic access.
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How you get the wire from point a to point be depends on the lights you are adding being inside the same joist section.

Are the new lights going to be in a row, or do you have to get from one joist to another?
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The first light will be within the same joist space. I have open style joists - so I had planned on fishing over from the first light to the second light which is going to be in another joist space (About 3 spaces over)
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Buy a 3 piece fiberglass pole, cut the hole for the light, knock out a KO in the light box and feed the pole to the hole for the can.
Grab the pole and either feed the wire back to the light box or to the hole in the ceiling.
Do the same thing for the second light.

Oh yea, good luck.
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Hah - thanks!

I hadn't thought about the fiberglass poles. Never used one before. Last time I fished something - was with a steel tape. I'll pick one up today on my way home.
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Steel tape does not work well outside of conduit.
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That definitely explains some of the difficulty the last time I fished something....

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