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Old 02-04-2012, 08:35 PM   #46
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Pulling large gauge wires through conduit bodies and conduit around garage door.


Yes I was looking at it today and went through the path of the conduit and was like there is no way I can pull though all those 90s. Was lucky due to warm weather I was able to dig a trench about 30" deep today.

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Old 02-04-2012, 08:42 PM   #47
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If the slab was thin around the edge I would have a hole drilled and go right into the ground. But the garage has a really deep footing all the way around the slab.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:58 PM   #48
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I don't know if you have decided on conduit size. I'll have to do a conduit fill but from experience I would say you want 2 1/2 ". It is much easier to pull thru an LB using an LB roller. You can also upsize the LB using adapters. JB's IMO are not the way to go. It is easier to pull thru a LB in your situation going from outside to inside. I'll put an arrow on the last diagram and it also will facilitate an LB roller if you so choose. You can do it without it will just take more pulling effort. Generally speaking you have to pull the wire out of the LB then re-feed it ... so sort of a pull then feed.. pull then feed.. but I think you get the idea.

Something to think about is just direct bury in the horizontal part of the trench. Make sure the cable is rated for it. Then all you have to worry about is the conduit at the mobile home and the garage. You can lay the whole run out on the ground feed it into the conduit a little easier that way at each end. With a 30" trench your not likely to damage it from digging in the future.
Just an option.

The other thing that concerns me is gutter space in the garage panel in order to connect to the feed thru lugs.

Is the garage panel fed from top or bottom?
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What is a LB roller? That sounds like a decent option with 2-1/2 LBs

Panel is fed from the bottom and I have a use a meter socket hub to get into the top because it's an outdoor rated box.

I was planning on using 2". Would it be allowed to feed both ends into the garage have two five foot pieces of conduit on with all the couplings needed to join it and when I get towards the end just slide the both ends on the 90s holding up the conduit on each end would allow me to feed the rest of the wire through finally coupling it together in the middle. Don't have to be glued just there to cover wire. Or will that not be allowed.

Found it lb roller for 2' LB 80 bucks.

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Old 02-04-2012, 09:54 PM   #50
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Panel is fed from the bottom and I have a use a meter socket hub to get into the top because it's an outdoor rated box.

I was planning on using 2". Would it be allowed to feed both ends into the garage have two five foot pieces of conduit on with all the couplings needed to join it and when I get towards the end just slide the both ends on the 90s holding up the conduit on each end would allow me to feed the rest of the wire through finally coupling it together in the middle. Don't have to be glued just there to cover wire. Or will that not be allowed.

Found it lb roller for 2' LB 80 bucks.
Yes 2" works. Here are 2 great places to make your calculations with internet sources.

http://www.jhlarson.com/ind_tables/ind_table.htm

http://www.electrician2.com/calculators/elcal.html

You can do whatever you want as for assembling the conduit... you will learn a lot that way ... Just go easy on the glue and make sure it doesn't get all over the wire insulation as it will react with it.

You can up size the lb using adapters on the 2"
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Great info. You also said something about knowing a good way to attach pull rope to the wire. Can you give me any tips?
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I have made a cable puller with a piece of stiff wire wrapped around the cable then through my fish tape end then back wrapped around the cable again and twisting both ends together tucked inside and taped done right it squeezes the cable tighter when you pull.
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There is a couple well seasoned ways to build a pulling head they are not any big secret in the trade. Probably the best is to link you to some videos that will show how to do it ... If I try to explain it will be paragraphs long. The rest of what you need is the tape after you make the head (remember to stagger your wires). Use duct tape .. wrap the wire with one pass sticky side up in the direction of the pull then go back the other way sticky side down. This just cushions and protects the conduit. Don't skimp on the wire when your done pulling just cut the cables behind the tape. You can if you want install a bare solid 12 awg wire before you tape that runs the length of the wrap plus about 2 feet then use it by pulling it to cut the length of the tape for easier removal and it saves some wire that way


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I have made a cable puller with a piece of stiff wire wrapped around the cable then through my fish tape end then back wrapped around the cable again and twisting both ends together tucked inside and taped done right it squeezes the cable tighter when you pull.
A fish tape will not pull the wire your using .....
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Yeah I have a rope was just wondering what tricks you had. Any help is greatly appreciated.

I know I can fish 3 4/0 through about 50 fee and a couple bends. But going to use a really heavy rope for this.
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Watch the video I posted for the pulling head and use some pulling lube. Don't let the dust settle once you add the lube to the wire it dries out pretty fast.
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You know, they do make direct burial 4/0.
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If there was not so much stuff in my way I would have loved to do dirrect burrial the whole lngth.
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I have a cement patio and a paved driveway out front that I would rather not tear up and out back another patio and a gas line.

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