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Old 08-26-2010, 08:21 PM   #16
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Obviously, I'm a fan of the technology. I just wish it was affordable for more people. It's a great way to reduce consumption.
I remember reading about them when I was in the market to replace a broken air-source heat pump. They make a lot of sense and from everything I had read and heard, work much better than the air-sourced heat pumps. Just too expensive : (

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Old 08-27-2010, 08:45 AM   #17
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Like I said in #3 My house is warm and toasty and cheap total electric.

1 Bill electric that's all no maintenance baseboard electric with thermostats in every room, I can control which rooms are on or off.

Other people I know have an electric bill plus oil or gas bill which triples mine most of the year.

And they have that stinky oil and gas, heat pumps which sometimes are maintenance nightmares.

If a thermostat or baseboard breaks I just go to the big box store and pick up one like and kind and have heat in an hour. Note. 20 years none broke.

Of course my house was built with electric heat design. 2x6 exterior walls, r 38 in attic and it's a small house so that has a lot to do with it.
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Of course my house was built with electric heat design. 2x6 exterior walls, r 38 in attic and it's a small house so that has a lot to do with it.
What state/area do you live? That probably has the biggest impact. I doubt you're in a northern climate. Or in a very rural area. In the Philadelphia area your electric bill would be pretty high, though of course that's relative to the size of your home.

The house I just sold earlier this year was built in 1970 as one of the first 'green' houses in my area. It was part of a very large development. All electric. It was about 2500 sq ft. By the time I bought it the previous owner had a dual-zone heat pump system installed. It sucked, because they had to retro the ductwork in. Many of the original residents (who are now ~70 years old) never upgraded to heat pumps and just had wood-burning inserts installed into the existing stone fireplaces to heat some of the house.

After I moved in I find out that ALL of the drywall in the house, including the garage ceiling (not sure if others were as well) had 3/8" drywall.
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Depends, is the house insulated good, are the windows tight, is the house wrapped, are the doors tight, drafts?.

My house is total electric I love it my electric bills are lower than anybody I know for the last 20 years.. people have electric, gas/oil combos that cost a fortune in maintenance etc.

My baseboards are all controlled by thermostats in every room.
That's where you're saving money. People can save TONS with oil of gas heat if they use hot water baseboard zones.
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BTW, if you're using PECO, the electric rates will probably go up 10% next year. I don't know if their competitors will do the same, but I've started looking at alternatives again. My highest electric bill here was $180, but I'd rather assume the worst and have a plan to move to another supplier.
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Hello Everyone,

Newbie to this forum. My wife and I are in the market to buy a house and came across this beautiful all electric home . I tried reading about the pros & cons of all E homes but not much information out there. Thankfully came across this thread but this being a couple of years older just wanted to bring this post up to seek latest advice from fellas with all E home.

Some information on house that I am looking to buy:
Location: Roswell, NM
Sq. Ft: Approx 1600; 3 bed 2 bath, 2 garage
Age: 35 years
Exterior: Stucco blocks & Interior: Carper, tile and wood.
Age of the forced air system: same as the house.

Here are few things that I would like to know before I make an offer.

1) Is all electric home a good idea in this part of the US? This house is located in Roswell, NM and the avg weather here is 59/39 in winter and 93/77 in summer.

2) I plan to ask for last year's utility bill history from the previous owner so that it gives me an understanding of what the average bill was for that house but again it will vary from user to user. Anything else that I should ask for?

3) The home says it has been energy audited in 2012. My understanding is that in energy audit they just survey the house checking the insulation, etc. but what matters is if the issues that came up in energy audit were fixed or not. Am I missing something here?

The electric company here is Xcel Energy and there electric rates for residetntial service are $0.079127/kWh for all kWh used per month during winter months & $.087881/kWh for all kWh used per month during summer months.

Any help on this would be appreciated.

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Wow, I can't believe the size of some of the electric bills mentioned in this thread. I live in a log home in the Eastern Panhandle of WV that was built three years ago (did it ourselves). We have a 3.5-ton heat pump; the auxiliary heat is a propane furnace. The only other gas appliance is a tankless water heater. Our electric bill averages about $75 a month, and the propane is $35 a month (level payment plan).
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Pros & Cons of Different for electric Home Methods. There's Electric Heat, electricity is 100 percent efficient; all of the power generated is turned into electric heat. and the electric furnace is a popular heating facility in many homes.
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Hello Everyone,

Newbie to this forum. My wife and I are in the market to buy a house and came across this beautiful all electric home . I tried reading about the pros & cons of all E homes but not much information out there. Thankfully came across this thread but this being a couple of years older just wanted to bring this post up to seek latest advice from fellas with all E home.

Some information on house that I am looking to buy:
Location: Roswell, NM
Sq. Ft: Approx 1600; 3 bed 2 bath, 2 garage
Age: 35 years
Exterior: Stucco blocks & Interior: Carper, tile and wood.
Age of the forced air system: same as the house.

Here are few things that I would like to know before I make an offer.

1) Is all electric home a good idea in this part of the US? This house is located in Roswell, NM and the avg weather here is 59/39 in winter and 93/77 in summer.

2) I plan to ask for last year's utility bill history from the previous owner so that it gives me an understanding of what the average bill was for that house but again it will vary from user to user. Anything else that I should ask for?

3) The home says it has been energy audited in 2012. My understanding is that in energy audit they just survey the house checking the insulation, etc. but what matters is if the issues that came up in energy audit were fixed or not. Am I missing something here?

The electric company here is Xcel Energy and there electric rates for residetntial service are $0.079127/kWh for all kWh used per month during winter months & $.087881/kWh for all kWh used per month during summer months.

Any help on this would be appreciated.
Is it electric resistance heat, or a heat pump.
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Pros & Cons of Different for electric Home Methods. There's Electric Heat, electricity is 100 percent efficient; all of the power generated is turned into electric heat. and the electric furnace is a popular heating facility in many homes.
http://www.energykinetics.com/saving...parisons.shtml

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You can put charts up 24 hours a day 365 a year but it don't matter when.

You have a oil furnace or gas furnace that needs attention and service and fossil fuel delivery.

I wouldn't have it in my house and I have been in the HVAC industry since 1968.

Electric heat no maintenance no service, no replacement , comfort in every room, no rip off HVAC Companies coming into my house.

Comfortable and clean.

By the way I am RSES Certified and took the RSES heat pump school just to mention two.

By the way heat pumps suck to. Just wait till they break you'll see.
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You can put charts up 24 hours a day 365 a year but it don't matter when.

You have a oil furnace or gas furnace that needs attention and service and fossil fuel delivery.

I wouldn't have it in my house and I have been in the HVAC industry since 1968.

Electric heat no maintenance no service, no replacement , comfort in every room, no rip off HVAC Companies coming into my house.

Comfortable and clean.

By the way I am RSES Certified and took the RSES heat pump school just to mention two.

By the way heat pumps suck to. Just wait till they break you'll see.
The save more money then they cost to fix if they do break down. Plus you can always switch it to emergency heat.
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the save more money then they cost to fix if they do break down. Plus you can always switch it to emergency heat.

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You can put charts up 24 hours a day 365 a year but it don't matter when.

You have a oil furnace or gas furnace that needs attention and service and fossil fuel delivery.

I wouldn't have it in my house and I have been in the HVAC industry since 1968.

Electric heat no maintenance no service, no replacement , comfort in every room, no rip off HVAC Companies coming into my house.

Comfortable and clean.

By the way I am RSES Certified and took the RSES heat pump school just to mention two.

By the way heat pumps suck to. Just wait till they break you'll see.
The last time you put in a gas furnace was when, in 1967? And I beg to differ, I come a cross many electric heating elements and sequencers and fusible links that were bad. I'm not saying one is better than the other but as an hvac tech you yourself would be able to install double wall flue pipe correctly, no classes needed for that. That was said if your concern was safety. If it's energy efficiency and Mother Earth and Earth Day and Woodstock, then buy you a 98% efficient furnace. And since you're an hvac tech then fix the dang thing if and when but you as well should know I'm about to say this to you, the better the install the better a system runs. If you're not that good at installation, what with you being so old and all , then you're bound to have more issues.
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The last time you put in a gas furnace was when, in 1967? And I beg to differ, I come a cross many electric heating elements and sequencers and fusible links that were bad. I'm not saying one is better than the other but as an hvac tech you yourself would be able to install double wall flue pipe correctly, no classes needed for that. That was said if your concern was safety. If it's energy efficiency and Mother Earth and Earth Day and Woodstock, then buy you a 98% efficient furnace. And since you're an hvac tech then fix the dang thing if and when but you as well should know I'm about to say this to you, the better the install the better a system runs. If you're not that good at installation, what with you being so old and all , then you're bound to have more issues.
Answer 2012 installation, I can see you don't respect other mechanics or RSES members and you have a problem with people that are old and not your age. Someday you'll understand I can't explain it to you. You sound like a guy that will make a good mechanic in a few years just keep plugging away. It's really difficult to understand your rambling words that mean nothing like double wall pipe, safety, Earth Day, Woodstock, 98% Furnaces, telling me to fix it, etc etc. I fixed more Conditioner's, Commercial Refrigeration, Industrial, Commercial, Residential equipment than you have even looked at or read about. So my young man have some respect for other tradesman regardless of age. As a matter of fact respect the old heads even more they might teach you something if you listen.

OH! by the way I was referring to Baseboard electric heat not electric air handlers with sequencers and the like. Which I have installed and serviced for many years. Have you even been in an engine room with a Thousand Ton Chiller?

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