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Old 12-06-2007, 12:38 PM   #1
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I am doing an engineering project in school and would appreciate it if you could help me. please answer the survey to the best of your ability.


Have you ever had to run wiring from a power source through a finished area in your house to install a light, ceiling fan, speakers, etc.?



Describe the method you used.



Did you have to drill through joists or studs?



How much drywall did you have to cut away?



If the hole(s) was large, was it difficult to patch it?



Is it very noticeable?



Would you be willing to buy something that could drill through the joists with out cutting a large hole or multiple holes?



Thank you for your time.

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Old 12-06-2007, 04:05 PM   #2
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I am doing an engineering project in school and would appreciate it if you could help me. please answer the survey to the best of your ability.


Have you ever had to run wiring from a power source through a finished area in your house to install a light, ceiling fan, speakers, etc.?



Describe the method you used.



Did you have to drill through joists or studs?



How much drywall did you have to cut away?



If the hole(s) was large, was it difficult to patch it?



Is it very noticeable?



Would you be willing to buy something that could drill through the joists with out cutting a large hole or multiple holes?



Thank you for your time.
1.Yes, all the time

2. Mad skills and fishing poles.

3.Yes.

4. None

5. No.

6. No.

7. No

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Old 12-06-2007, 06:30 PM   #3
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Yes and a drill, duh!. Just kidding. I currently have some Irwin auger drills that drill through wood like a hot knife through butter.




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How much drywall did you have to cut away?
as little as possible




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If the hole(s) was large, was it difficult to patch it?
No more so than a small hole. It's just work.




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Is it very noticeable
? Nope





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Would you be willing to buy something that could drill through the joists with out cutting a large hole or multiple holes?





Sometimes it is inevitable. I have a 5 foot flexi drill bit that helps keep the rock cutting down to a minimum.

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I am doing an engineering project in school and would appreciate it if you could help me. please answer the survey to the best of your ability.


Have you ever had to run wiring from a power source through a finished area in your house to install a light, ceiling fan, speakers, etc.?



Describe the method you used.



Did you have to drill through joists or studs?

A. Sure we have to do that anyway.


How much drywall did you have to cut away?

A. Just enough to get the bit in.

If the hole(s) was large, was it difficult to patch it?

A. not really it depending if drywall or plaster/lathe set up. the latter is more tougher to get it even.

Is it very noticeable?

A. it depending on the location where i breech it.

Would you be willing to buy something that could drill through the joists with out cutting a large hole or multiple holes?

A. yes i have the fixable drill bit with 1.5 meter shaft to drill in the wall/ceiling cavity. and have extendsion as well to make it longer if needed [ the extendison is work best with vertical walls but ceiling every other joints or third one depending on the setup.



Thank you for your time.

De Rein [ you are welcome]

Merci, Marc
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:58 AM   #5
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Have you ever had to run wiring from a power source through a finished area in your house to install a light, ceiling fan, speakers, etc.?

Yes

Describe the method you used.
I try to string the wire up next to a vent pipe, I use a stud boring 1/2" drill bit that's 3' long, or a flexible 5' bit that lets me cut a small opening in a wall, and bend it up through the top or bottom plate, etc. just like

but my bit lets me attach a handle to help bend & direct it.

Did you have to drill through joists or studs?
Yes

How much drywall did you have to cut away?
Just enough, and try to make sure it's rectangular.


If the hole(s) was large, was it difficult to patch it?
Almost as easy repairing a large hole as it is a small.


Is it very noticeable?
No


Would you be willing to buy something that could drill through the joists with out cutting a large hole or multiple holes?
I think it probably as easy as it's going to get unless robotics happens with just those 2 types of drill bits, I'm not one who likes to overdo it on the tools so most likely I would not unless the product really simple and innovative for such tasks.

Thank you for your time.
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I am doing an engineering project in school and would appreciate it if you could help me. please answer the survey to the best of your ability.


Have you ever had to run wiring from a power source through a finished area in your house to install a light, ceiling fan, speakers, etc.?
yes


Describe the method you used.
from the in wall switch through the attic to an UL approved box at the desired location.


Did you have to drill through joists or studs?
studs only!!! drilling through ceiling joists could weaken the structure and thats not good


How much drywall did you have to cut away?
ussually only for the box(es)


If the hole(s) was large, was it difficult to patch it?
no


Is it very noticeable?
no if done proberly with spackle


Would you be willing to buy something that could drill through the joists with out cutting a large hole or multiple holes?
there is no such tool that would ever make me drill through a joist.


Thank you for your time.
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Did you have to drill through joists or studs?
studs only!!! drilling through ceiling joists could weaken the structure and thats not good

Huh?? Engineered truss, in some cases. Joist, gonna need to see some evidence.

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Would you be willing to buy something that could drill through the joists with out cutting a large hole or multiple holes?
Holy Crap! If this is not a build up to a spam post nothing is.
If anything this is market research for the company he works for or owns.
I refuse to take part.

Hell, his screen name is even "XXX Inc."

Sure, he's in school. The same school we are all in.
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I thought that too, SP. But hell, now I'm kinda curious...
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Holy Crap! If this is not a build up to a spam post nothing is.
If anything this is market research for the company he works for or owns.
I refuse to take part.

Hell, his screen name is even "XXX Inc."

Sure, he's in school. The same school we are all in.
This survey is for a class i am taking in high school. it is part of a engineering course called Project Lead the Way. this year we have to find a problem, research and find justification (which is what this survey is) and attempt to create a prototype for a solution to the problem. JIT inc stands for the members of my group John, Tony and me, Ismail. i am sorry if you think this is spam but this was the only way i could find research/ justification for this problem. i would really appreciate it if you could help me. you can contact me at jitinc@yahoo.com. thank you.
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I hate to be such a cynic, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em.
Do you feel guilty now, Speedy ? I am officially rolling on the floor. Now I suppose I have to go back and answer the questions correctly?

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