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rdempsey 06-21-2011 05:17 PM

Problem with 230 volt double pole single throw switch
 
I want to install a DPST switch between a disconnect box and a well pump. I installed the switch and when the switch is in the"ON" position, the pump works fine. When I turn the switch to the "OFF" position, the relay in the disconnect box chatters (very rapid on-off) until I dosconnect the power. Any ideas sas to why the chatter?

gregzoll 06-21-2011 05:57 PM

Post a schematic of how the switch is wired from the panel to the switch, to the relay, to the pump. If it is chattering, that means it is still getting voltage through current leak. What is the rating on the switch & relay?

AllanJ 06-21-2011 06:04 PM

Probably has something to do with the way the pressure switch is wired or whether its connections were disturbed when you installed the new double pole switch. I cannot speculate on it without seeing how the pressure switch and the relay are wired. Posting a picture of the wiring diagram (if there is one and it is still correct) can help.

a7ecorsair 06-21-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdempsey (Post 671484)
Any ideas sas to why the chatter?

Yes, you have it wired wrong:yes:
Is this a 240 volt pump? Why not interrupt the power before the pressure switch?

micromind 06-21-2011 09:55 PM

With most pumps, there cannot be any switch between the control box and the pump motor. If these lines are switched off, the start relay and that start capacitor will form an inductive-reactive circuit. Basically, they'll fight with each other. This is the chatter you're hearing.

The switch can be installed anywhere in the line from the panel to the control box, and it'll work fine.

Rob

Missouri Bound 06-21-2011 10:23 PM

We have a similar situation with a waterfall pump at my work. When it is powered down, the relay chatters. In our situation it is the pump running backwards when it is shut off as the water "backflushes". When the water is gone, the chatter stops. By design we do not use a check valve as this "backflushing" clears any debris around the pump.

rdempsey 06-23-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micromind (Post 671725)
With most pumps, there cannot be any switch between the control box and the pump motor. If these lines are switched off, the start relay and that start capacitor will form an inductive-reactive circuit. Basically, they'll fight with each other. This is the chatter you're hearing.

The switch can be installed anywhere in the line from the panel to the control box, and it'll work fine.

Rob

Rob, your answer fixed my problem. Thanks for the quick response - Rich


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