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Old 04-19-2013, 10:40 AM   #16
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and not every receptacle has to be tr so they still carry other options.
Again, not the point. Of course they will carry other options.

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Old 04-19-2013, 11:01 AM   #17
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Before I answer, I just wanted to say that while some Home Depot and Lowes associates are clueless, some are extremely knowledgeable. They certainly have some people who know what they're selling and what the codes are.

So my point is, by
- stocking more code compliant parts and putting them front/center
- by posting materials showing how to make common repairs (like they do with many other things)
- by having associates who know that TR fixtures should be installed

The stores would make a lot more money. TR fixtures are certainly no harder to install. The stores should be pushing them. I don't understand it.
Then I would say you are missing the point of TR, code and big box stores. They do stock code compliant parts and they are in their section just like everything else has a section. Big box stores are not a source to get free certified electrician advice, no where is that claim being made. It is the consumers responsibility to know what they are doing, if you dont know then that is why certified electricians exist. You complain about the $7 price difference in TR usb outlets, so how much more do you think it would cost if a big box had to pay their employees for training on the NEC?

And I dont know what HD or Lowes you go into but all the ones near me offer plenty of DIY books and pamphlets on how to do common wiring repairs. I don't see why people cant take responsibility for what they do, you wanted to do DIY then nobody is responsible for doing it right but you.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:10 AM   #18
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You can keep banging your head against the wall by refusing to accept that your supposition that they would make more money is wrong. I am a supplier to one of the big box stores and I can assure you each departments merchant knows exactly what should be on the shelf to make them the most money. These stores have literally hundreds of employees that work just on knowing which products should be on the shelf, they have mock stores to test product sales and spend millions figuring this stuff out. But keep on believing you are smarter than the whole of those organizations. HA
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:28 AM   #19
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But keep on believing you are smarter than the whole of those organizations. HA
Oh for cryin out loud, get over yourself.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:31 AM   #20
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You can keep banging your head against the wall by refusing to accept that your supposition that they would make more money is wrong.
My "supposition" is "I don't get it", as I've stated twice.

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I am a supplier to one of the big box stores and I can assure you each departments merchant knows exactly what should be on the shelf to make them the most money.
No, not exactly. Companies almost never make perfect decisions, there's always room for improvement, and employees from executives down to janitors make mistakes every day that cost companies money. Maybe they're right and maybe they're not.
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Big box stores are not a source to get free certified electrician advice, no where is that claim being made.
You're right, no where has that claim been made, by me or anyone. However they do give out plenty of free electrical, plumbing, carpentry, etc advice every day, and sometimes they do a pretty good job of it.

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You complain about the $7 price difference in TR usb outlets
There's no complaint, it was a simple statement of fact.

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so how much more do you think it would cost if a big box had to pay their employees for training on the NEC?
What are you talking about?

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And I dont know what HD or Lowes you go into but all the ones near me offer plenty of DIY books and pamphlets on how to do common wiring repairs. I don't see why people cant take responsibility for what they do, you wanted to do DIY then nobody is responsible for doing it right but you.
What are you talking about? The question was about make profit. If TR outlets cost more, then normally that means the profit is higher. So why would HD not try to sell more TR outlets? All the DIY electrical books in the store show that TR outlets are code, right? So why would HD discourage their sale, which is implicit in the items they stock and the way the stock is displayed?
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I think they should carry a variety TR WR and regular receptacles. I don't need them for every application so I am happy they do have the variety. If a homeowner don't know what they are doing and installs a cheap non tr or wr receptacle somewhere it should not be installed it's not the stores fault.
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My "supposition" is "I don't get it", as I've stated twice.
I tried to explain the "I don't get it" part in post #13. Your entire reasoning behind "not getting it" is that you believe the stores will make more money. That is your supposition, your uncertain belief.

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No, not exactly. Companies almost never make perfect decisions, there's always room for improvement, and employees from executives down to janitors make mistakes every day that cost companies money. Maybe they're right and maybe they're not.
You just want to keep arguing the same point - over and over, even though you wrong.
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You just want to keep arguing the same point - over and over, even though you wrong.
What point exactly am I wrong about?
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I don't understand it.
Correct. And you're letting that get in the way of learning why. And arguing pointlessly based on that lack of understanding. Backed up by assumptions about what would or wouldn't be profitable. Quit while you're behind.
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What point exactly am I wrong about?
Really?! You forgot what your own point was? And I'm not trying to be an ass by saying this, but you need to take the cotton out of your ears and attempt to process what others are saying; rather than relentlessly arguing your point, full-steam ahead, without much thought. Reminds of trying to explain something to my 13 year old son who just knows he's right about something.
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Really?! You forgot what your own point was?
Uh.... no. I asked you what point I was wrong about. You might want to take a little cotton out of your own ears there buddy.
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Oh FFS, let it die

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