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Old 04-15-2012, 11:48 AM   #16
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You posted the other wiring photo before my post uploaded. Lets comprehend this.

Have you been able to check for power at the switch?

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OK wire "A" is most likely for the light on the fan and wire "B" is most likely for the fan motor. If you can provide a photo of the wiring at the switch.
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The two old ones tied together w/o nut are definitely hot... my right arm could tell u that... gave me a good zap.... ill take it apart and get a picture though... the issue currently isnt wiring the fan... its there is no power anywhere to upstairs ceiling boxes in either bedroom
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Check the switch, the splices behind the switch, and the splices at the fan box.

If those are all good, you are going to be looking for a needle in a haystack.
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dexter...when you checked the breaker at the load center did you turn it completely off then back on again. Just to make sure it wasnt tripped??


And again...check for power at the switch.
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You should replace your breaker. Your wife not allowing it to trip when it wanted to burnt it up. I know you said it was hot out if the breaker but if you were using a hot stick then it could be picking up voltage from circuits near it.
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You should replace your breaker. Your wife not allowing it to trip when it wanted to burnt it up. I know you said it was hot out if the breaker but if you were using a hot stick then it could be picking up voltage from circuits near it.
Can you actually prevent a breaker from tripping by holding the lever? I thought they tripped internally and the lever was just used to reset and of course to turn on or off.
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Can you actually prevent a breaker from tripping by holding the lever? I thought they tripped internally and the lever was just used to reset and of course to turn on or off.
Well i honestly dont know. When they trip they do move the arm. So if you prevented the arm to trip then i would guess you could keep it from tripping? Regardless i think the breaker needs replaced.
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Dextercat....as other have suggested you need to follow the hot and neutral with a volt meter (or wired test light) to the most likely switch, receptacle, or junction boxes. Because of the high current short circuit, what most likely occured is a damaged connection somewhere. Wirenuts and back stabbed devices are where I would look first and don't forget the neutral connections. You may have to disconnect the hot and neutral in the breaker panel for that circuit and use a toner if you run into a brick wall with the first method.

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Regardless i think the breaker needs replaced.
Good point. Start your test at the breaker with a volt meter or wired test light.

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I hope he disconnected the fan first and then go about testing. Man I won't want to be in his shoes. It looks like a mess and playing with high voltage is not fun.
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I hope he disconnected the fan first and then go about testing. Man I won't want to be in his shoes. It looks like a mess and playing with high voltage is not fun.
Yeah its amazing what taking a minute to see whats landed where in the old fixture before tearing it out can save you in future headaches

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