Ok, phase one of my basement reno project went well - planning. I now have the boxes installed, and tahnks to some good folks here, I have now finalized my wiring diagrams.
So, I arrive home with all of the supplies needed, start installation of the electrical boxes, complete that part, ready to locate and put up the lighting. Small lights - easy - install metal box to host the wiring, the eventually the ceramic light will attach. These are in rooms with no drop ceiling - so no issue. Go to the main room where there will eventually be a drop ceiling, and oh oh???????
Well - what can I say - I have never worked with pot lights before. I have never worked with a drop ceiling before. I figure that pre planning is best unless I want a real mess later to fix. So my questions to help me prevent a real mess are as follows:
1) My pots (or Cans) have bars on them that are meant to be supported by the joists up above. Of course, because I am using a drop ceiling, this is not possible. How should I install them in the drop ceiling - can i mount the supports on the pots to the drop ceiling frame? is that safe? Should I wire them to the joist above instead, or in combination with mounting them to the ceiling frame?
2) I am doing all of the wiring now, and then will be doing the drywall, with the drop ceiling going in last. What do I do with these lights between now and then - do I install them in the ceiling joists - and move them down later, do I hang them temporarily with wire from the ceiling joists, do I just put junction boxes up where the lights eventually will be?
3) No matter how I do it now, I will need excess wire left to be able to lower the lights once the project is done. I once had an issue with the electricion that inspected my work when I left too much excess wire outside the lighting and outlet boxes. Is it safe to leave some excess wire for a short period of time until the project is completed so that I can lower the lights into the drop ceiling later on?
4) Another thought, should I set up separate boxes from the built in ones contained in the cans up in the ceiling, and use them to join up the boxes at a future date? By doing this I can put regular ceramic lights up until such time I am ready to install the pots. If I do this, is it ok later remove the ceramic light, join the pots into these boxes and cap the old box up in the drop ceiling, or does the box need to be lowered to the level of the drop ceiling as well with a plate providing access? I read somewhere that any junction boxes cannot be buried in a wall or ceiling?
ugh - so many questions on one lil issue - and this project was moving along so well.
Thx for any help
Howdy
So, I arrive home with all of the supplies needed, start installation of the electrical boxes, complete that part, ready to locate and put up the lighting. Small lights - easy - install metal box to host the wiring, the eventually the ceramic light will attach. These are in rooms with no drop ceiling - so no issue. Go to the main room where there will eventually be a drop ceiling, and oh oh???????
Well - what can I say - I have never worked with pot lights before. I have never worked with a drop ceiling before. I figure that pre planning is best unless I want a real mess later to fix. So my questions to help me prevent a real mess are as follows:
1) My pots (or Cans) have bars on them that are meant to be supported by the joists up above. Of course, because I am using a drop ceiling, this is not possible. How should I install them in the drop ceiling - can i mount the supports on the pots to the drop ceiling frame? is that safe? Should I wire them to the joist above instead, or in combination with mounting them to the ceiling frame?
2) I am doing all of the wiring now, and then will be doing the drywall, with the drop ceiling going in last. What do I do with these lights between now and then - do I install them in the ceiling joists - and move them down later, do I hang them temporarily with wire from the ceiling joists, do I just put junction boxes up where the lights eventually will be?
3) No matter how I do it now, I will need excess wire left to be able to lower the lights once the project is done. I once had an issue with the electricion that inspected my work when I left too much excess wire outside the lighting and outlet boxes. Is it safe to leave some excess wire for a short period of time until the project is completed so that I can lower the lights into the drop ceiling later on?
4) Another thought, should I set up separate boxes from the built in ones contained in the cans up in the ceiling, and use them to join up the boxes at a future date? By doing this I can put regular ceramic lights up until such time I am ready to install the pots. If I do this, is it ok later remove the ceramic light, join the pots into these boxes and cap the old box up in the drop ceiling, or does the box need to be lowered to the level of the drop ceiling as well with a plate providing access? I read somewhere that any junction boxes cannot be buried in a wall or ceiling?
ugh - so many questions on one lil issue - and this project was moving along so well.
Thx for any help
Howdy