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Old 08-05-2012, 05:40 AM   #1
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Hello everyone I'm new to diy. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with oklahomas code for wiring pool pumps and having pool bonded?

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I don't know about OK specifically, but what is your question?

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There are umpteen zillion codes when it comes to pool installations. You are going to have to check with your community's building/inspection department before you make any plans.
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I don't know about OK specifically, but what is your question?
My pump and filter is set 3' beside the pool. I was needing to know if my outlet for the pump can be that close and can it be a gfci plug or does it have to be a twist lock plug? And do I need a ground rod next to the pool? How do I bond it all to?
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My pump and filter is set 3' beside the pool. I was needing to know if my outlet for the pump can be that close and can it be a gfci plug or does it have to be a twist lock plug? And do I need a ground rod next to the pool? How do I bond it all to?
I see this with every above ground pool I wire, they install the filter and motor way to close to the pool....then they end up coming back to move the equipment to where I installed the receptacle.
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680.22 Area Lighting, Receptacles, and Equipment.
(A) Receptacles.
(1) Circulation and Sanitation System, Location. Receptacles that provide power for water-pump motors or for other loads directly related to the circulation and sanitation system shall be located at least 3.0 m (10 ft) from the inside walls of the pool, or not less than 1.83 m (6 ft) from the inside walls of the pool if they meet all of the following conditions:

(1) Consist of single receptacles
(2) Employ a locking configuration
(3) Are of the grounding type
(4) Have GFCI protection


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(5) Cord-and-Plug Connections. Pool-associated motors shall be permitted to employ cord-and-plug connections. The flexible cord shall not exceed 900 mm (3 ft) in length. The flexible cord shall include a copper equipment grounding conductor sized in accordance with 250.122 but not smaller than 12 AWG. The cord shall terminate in a grounding-type attach- ment plug.

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And do I need a ground rod next to the pool? How do I bond it all to?
What is the water depth of the pool? If under 42" then no bonding is required, if over 42" then bonding is required, and this does NOT involve a ground rod.
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680.22 Area Lighting, Receptacles, and Equipment.
(A) Receptacles.
(1) Circulation and Sanitation System, Location. Receptacles that provide power for water-pump motors or for other loads directly related to the circulation and sanitation system shall be located at least 3.0 m (10 ft) from the inside walls of the pool, or not less than 1.83 m (6 ft) from the inside walls of the pool if they meet all of the following conditions:

(1) Consist of single receptacles
(2) Employ a locking configuration
(3) Are of the grounding type
(4) Have GFCI protection

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(5) Cord-and-Plug Connections. Pool-associated motors shall be permitted to employ cord-and-plug connections. The flexible cord shall not exceed 900 mm (3 ft) in length. The flexible cord shall include a copper equipment grounding conductor sized in accordance with 250.122 but not smaller than 12 AWG. The cord shall terminate in a grounding-type attach- ment plug.
Ok not to sound stupid but I don't live within city limits so does that same code still apply?
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Ok not to sound stupid but I don't live within city limits so does that same code still apply?
The NEC is a national code, but if I were you, I would make some phone calls on what is required....
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What is the water depth of the pool? If under 42" then no bonding is required, if over 42" then bonding is required, and this does NOT involve a ground rod.
The pool is 54". So how do I go about making sure it is all bonded?
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The NEC is a national code, but if I were you, I would make some phone calls on what is required....
Ok. Thanks for the help
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My pump and filter is set 3' beside the pool. I was needing to know if my outlet for the pump can be that close and can it be a gfci plug or does it have to be a twist lock plug? And do I need a ground rod next to the pool? How do I bond it all to?
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The pool is 54". So how do I go about making sure it is all bonded?
So you are basically asking for all the codes and wiring related to a permanent above ground pool.

My suggestion is to either get a copy of the NEC and read ALL of Art.680 I & II, and a few good books on basic wiring, or call an electrician to come over and do the job properly.
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So you are basically asking for all the codes and wiring related to a permanent above ground pool.

My suggestion is to either get a copy of the NEC and read ALL of Art.680 I & II, and a few good books on basic wiring, or call an electrician to come over and do the job properly.
I have to agree, I cant reprint everything verbatim, too easy to miss something as in every scenario is different, this would turn into a 500 page thread, do some reading, then ask for clarifications on your questions.

I'll even get you started, here is a great link to article 680....
http://www.erbinspections.com/Forms%...tallations.pdf

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