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Old 05-05-2010, 08:38 PM   #1
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The kitchen has a bar area. The kitchen side has the sink and a 24" (bottom) cabinet to the left of it. We would rather not have an outlet above that cabinet but code seems to require it. (We will use that area to dry dishes so we do not see a use for an outlet.) Any suggestion on how to "get around" the code requirement? We would rather not put anything on the backsplash. At the other parts of the kitchen we have plugmold under the cabinets. Since this is a bar no uppers, so no way to do that. Presently we had a plug wired. We plan to have it inspected and then just run backsplash over it after the inspector is gone. Your ideas/suggestion will be appreciated.

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Old 05-05-2010, 08:47 PM   #2
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You aren't going to like this. Stop looking for a way to circumvent what the NEC requires. It is not just about how you will use this area but also any future owners. These rule are in place for a reason. If covered up or not installed someone will try to use an extension cord to get power over there where it should have been. A kid grabs the cord and pulls a crockpot of hot soup off the counter and all over themselves. Sounds like a good decision.

The lack of the receptacle may also show up during a home inspection and the buyers may want you to install what should have been installed.

Also, you cannot just bury a junction box like you stated you would do with the backsplash.

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Running backsplash over it is illegal & dangerous
My last house some idiot ran baseboard over an outlet
Very good way to start a fire
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Thanks for the safety and other concern. I am not concerned about the different owners. I really do not care for a plug there either. I will remove the box and make sure the wire is not hot (we had it run separately for this very reason). By the way, what would the code require if we reduced the bar height to that of the countertop (as some designers suggested to us)? There would be no wall space to put the plug on. Would we have to drill a hole on the granite or the cabinets?
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As long as you have a counter wider then 12" you need an outlet
You are required to keep this outlet by code
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We may need to install a plug near a sink. ("plug required at bar area", a.k.a. code trumps visual appeal.) The wall is only 8" tall above the countertop and so the outlet would be about 4" above the surface and 12" from the sink. Is there any special requirement regarding this outlet because of the water hazard? (Other than GFCI.) Thanks.
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Other than GFI protection, no.

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