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Old 09-22-2013, 02:40 PM   #16
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looks like the white is feeding the switch and coming back on the extra black? If you turned breaker off that feeds the light does anything else go out? Is there a junction box in basement?

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Old 09-22-2013, 03:26 PM   #17
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Yes, there is a circuit box in the basement. When I had it wired incorrectly the first time when I turned on the light switch it tripped one of the breakers.

When I turn that breaker off, I don't notice anything else in the house that goes off. I believe this light is the only thing on this switch.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:37 PM   #18
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DO NOT USE THE DC setting this is AC!if the other end goes to the basement then it is most likely a switch loop.does the extra black go towards the switch or basement?if the basement i would say they were trying to get an extra hot leg for a possible failed one.set your meter to the closest to 120 volt AC, check from each black to white on the side with the 3 wires if ya get 120 on each to the white , then check to each black, if ya get 240 then 2 breakers are supplying this cap one off for safety.
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Old 09-22-2013, 06:42 PM   #19
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just thought of one thing,try to find out where that single black wire goes, it could be a supply wire for a light in the basement. then they picked up the neutral at the panel. not legal but feasible.keep us updated!
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Old 09-22-2013, 08:20 PM   #20
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The extra black wire is from above, which I believe leads to the basement and the switch box.

I meant to say AC, not DC above. Tomorrow I will try using my multimeter on the AC setting and will check the voltages on both of these black wires. Actually I will check the voltages on all wires which might give us a better idea of what's going on.

I can't be sure but I think most of the wiring in the house should be legal. They are very strict in the particular city I live in -- one of the most strict around, maybe because a lot of the houses are old, I'm not sure. I agree though that even that still doesn't guarantee it's legal. I would like to have this wired correctly though so I will report back tomorrow after I can try what I stated above.

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Old 09-22-2013, 10:02 PM   #21
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I uploaded a picture with all the wires numbered to make it easier to talk about.

Ok, so you want me to put one of my multimeter leads on #3. Then put the other lead first on #2 and check the voltage, then on #4 and check the voltage. I should see 0V AC on one and 120V AC on the other. If they both show 120V AC that means I am delivering 240V AC which is too much and one needs to be taken off and capped.

Also, just to be clear. Can you tell me from the picture I attached what wires I would want to pair together to do this correctly?

The more I think about it, I'm wondering if #4 should just be removed and capped... ??
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yeap your dead on the money #4 may have no voltage at all ,if it doesn't go to anything else i would cap it off. & button her up. but if ya got 240 then ya gotta go looking!
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if #1 & #7 runs to a switch the way it is wired your good to go just need to know where #4 goes.i agree ,if nothing is on #4 then cap it off & button her up.
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Thanks!

I also found the attached pic which I think is the situation I am dealing with here and shows how to wire it up. So if #4 is bad or even live with 120 V AC then I think the best thing to do is to cap it either way, correct?

I will report back tomorrow night when I'm able to get back in and look at the AC voltages on those two black wires. Very curious to know why there are two in there......
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Since that black wire #4 seems to be all by itself, what white wire should I use when I test with the multimeter? I will have to touch one of the multimeter's leads to the #4 wire and then what white wire should I use for the other lead? #3? How can I tell which one goes with #4 if it's a live wire?
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yeap , check it with #3.if there's voltage on it thenit's on another breaker. the only way to find it is catch it at the next junction it stops at.
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yeap , check it with #3.if there's voltage on it then it's on another breaker. the only way to find it is catch it at the next junction it stops at.
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yeap , check it with #3.if there's voltage on it thenit's on another breaker. the only way to find it is catch it at the next junction it stops at.
that diagram would be correct.
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that diagram would be correct.
#2 & #3 is defintely the feed from the panel.
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