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Old 11-04-2013, 09:35 PM   #1
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Please advice ..circuit breaker trips with use of space heaters


In this house both bedroom are in one 15 amp circuit so whenever we turn on space heater (1500 watts) it trips...and I understand why...it trips because load is too much 12.5 plus 12.5 on 15 amp circuit...

now both bedroom has a baseboard heater one in each room...

these baseboard heaters are connected to double pole 20 amp ciricuit breakers so if am not wrong they are 40 amp total...and these baseboard heaters are also 1500 watts but they are 208/240v.

so in my understanding baseboard heaters does not need this big circuit breakers ..AND PLEASE NOTE WE DONT WANT TO USE BASEBOARD HEATERS AT ALL.so how can I divert one of the room outlets (which includes space heater) to this double pole 20 amp circuit?

Hope am clear and not confusing in my question...

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In this house both bedroom are in one 15 amp circuit...
In this house all 3 bedrooms and the living room are on one...

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Cutting to the chase... leave what is in place alone.
You need a new circuit. Maybe two; with one for each room.

In summer they can be used for the window AC

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In this house all 3 bedrooms and the living room are on one...


Cutting to the chase... leave what is in place alone.
You need a new circuit. Maybe two; with one for each room.

In summer they can be used for the window AC
Thanks for your advice but your advice remain same even if we dont want to use baseboard heaters at all? can't we use baseboard heater circuit for one of the room? this baseboard heater circuit has double pole 20amp which I think I can replace with single 15 amp...do you think its wise to do that?
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these baseboard heaters are connected to double pole 20 amp ciricuit breakers so if am not wrong they are 40 amp total...and these baseboard heaters are also 1500 watts but they are 208/240v.
You are wrong. They are 20 amps at 240 volts. Not same as 40 amps.
Instead of using plug in heater why don't you use the baseboard heaters?
The double pole 20 amp is providing 240 volts. You don't convert your receptacles to 240 volts.
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You are wrong. They are 20 amps at 240 volts. Not same as 40 amps.
Instead of using plug in heater why don't you use the baseboard heaters?
The double pole 20 amp is providing 240 volts. You don't convert your receptacles to 240 volts.
We dont want to use baseboard heaters ....we want to use space heaters which are 1500 watts....

..it not advisable to use that baseboard heater circuit which is 240v and has 20 amp double pole breakers?


if its ok to use that baseboard circuit...what do we need to do?
cut those baseboard heaters and than put a standard duplex receptacle and thats it?
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...we want to use space heaters which are 1500 watts....
1500w at 120v = each requires it's own 15A circuit. Provide it.

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if its ok to use that baseboard circuit...
You may be able to use that wire for ONE 15A (or 20A) circuit. Not two.
You'll still need to pull wire and still need TWO single pole breakers.
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I'm on my local volunteer fire dept.
By far this time of year the biggest cause of fires is cause from space heaters and the wiring where it's plugged into.
I've seen the cord get so hot the insulation melted into the carpet and the breaker never tripped.
Far safer to use the baseboard heat.
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I'm on my local volunteer fire dept.
By far this time of year the biggest cause of fires is cause from space heaters and the wiring where it's plugged into.
I've seen the cord get so hot the insulation melted into the carpet and the breaker never tripped.
Far safer to use the baseboard heat.
Thanks for alerting me...I think we should use space heater we use most and in other room we will use baseboard heat ...that way no chance of trip or fire because space heater and baseboard heater both are on different circuit.
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1500 watts of heat is the same amount of heat regardless of voltage.
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First and foremost, do you own this place or are you renting?

WHAT Is the issue with using the baseboards? It is FAR easier to just use them than to mess around like you are asking.

Yes, if you have the baseboards removed completely, and reconfigure the circuits and install receptacles it can be done, but you lose the baseboards completely. This will most likely create a serious code violation unless you have another form of permanent heat in theses rooms.

I will NOT explain how to do this though. I get the strong impression that you have no idea what you are doing so my only suggestion is to call an electrician.
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We dont want to use baseboard heaters ....we want to use space heaters which are 1500 watts....

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Your logic isn't really making sense, since the room still requires the SAME amount of BTU to feel comfortable, regardless if you use a space heater or the existing baseboard heaters, if you think you are saving money, you are incorrect in this theory…. a watt is a watt and you are still going to be spending the same amount of money, your best choice is to just turn down the thermostat to save a little…..
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space heater are not made for continuous use

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